An Elephants desperate fight!

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    An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Guest on Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:55 pm

    Here is my WIP Elephant tank by Dragon. Originally was to be set during the battle of Kursk, but
    as i found out, this one has a bow MG. Which was not installed on those Elephants during Kursk.
    So this is sometime after, maybe Poland. Anyway my first atempt at a derailed track just didn't
    seem right, so i had to completely redo it, and the ground as well.

    Now i've been weathering the tank with oils mostly, and some pastels (need to try Mig pigments someday)
    but i think it needs more of something here. I have thrown dirt up on it from ground explosions.
    I did not do a filter system on it, should i try?

    So any suggestions at this point would be helpful.

















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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  alexbb on Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:15 pm

    keep them comming for all to enjoy
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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Ray on Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:36 pm

    Welldone Luftiger and thanks for posting and keeping "our home" burning warm What a Face

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    Post  Guest on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:57 pm

    Thanks Alex & Ray, will do. Wink

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    Post  Joseph on Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:15 pm

    Well done very nice work, tks for keeping the forum alive and kicking by posting your nice work Smile

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Tancred on Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:03 pm

    Another fine piece of work. Is that the latest Dragon Elefant with Zimmerit? Looks like a very good kit.

    Thanks for sharing

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    PS Shall we address you as Lufttiger ? as I have not seen your name scratch

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    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:34 pm

    Excellent!

    I like the idea of the diorama. I also like the shell impacts... very realistic!

    I look forward to see more progress on this

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    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:21 pm

    Superior Quality!

    be sure I won't miss your progress! AMAZING!!!

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    Post  iCocker on Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:40 pm

    Luft, I really like the composition of the KO Elefant, though the diorama give me more an impression of a Kursk ambience, might be the trenches idea ... if placing the tank in Poland I do not see it the best place IMO, in Poland the Germans were the ones retreating and trying to create a defencive line, on the other hand Italy which was another place that the Elephant saw action might play the part more ... the idea of trenches and defencive lines might look appropriate for the Gustav Line etc ...

    Keep them coming ... love your diorama style!

    Regarding Filters yes start using them it would tie the camo more. Also check out MIGs pigments these are an improvement on pastels and are state of the art material for weathering, you can do anything from dust to mud etc ... The shell impacts are really good I like them but might the silver inside be toned down with a filter and some washes ...

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    Good airbrush work...

    Post  Dottore on Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:09 pm

    with the cammo....

    Coming along well....I echo Ivan's suggestions on filters...

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    Post  Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:32 pm

    Tancred wrote:Another fine piece of work. Is that the latest Dragon Elefant with Zimmerit? Looks like a very good kit.

    Thanks for sharing

    Tancred afro

    PS Shall we address you as Lufttiger ? as I have not seen your name scratch

    Yes this is the new-old Dragon kit with Zimm, they have taken an older kit and updated it.
    Unfortumatly they didn't plan well for the aluminum barrel, it doesn't fit well at all and even
    after using super glue it has become loose, oh well.

    Luft, lufttiger, works for now, i guess i just don't want too much info on the net about me,
    but somehow people always figure it out.

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:36 pm

    Ivan, do you think it is still possible to do a filter wash after i have already applied pastels?

    Much thanks for your encouragement, Noel, Alex, Dottore, Joseph & Tancred.

    Yes i do agree with Ivan about my layout, it can't be Kursk (bow gun), not really the right
    type of ground for Poland. Maybe Italy, but i have planned to throw in some Russian Figs.

    How about a counter attack in the fall of 43?

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  iCocker on Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:55 pm

    Hmmm if already you have pastels probably with the filters these shall dissolve and you might have a muddy effect, if I were you and pastels are not fixed I try to take off as much as possible from the hull and give the whole tank some filters then when satisfied with the results and dry put again the pastels were required ...

    Not sure if in Fall 43 the Elephant was out already, probably the Ferdinand was but on the other hand it might still be in Russia in the 44 period when they started the big push, could be an 'elephant hunting party' by the Russians [might you use minendogs], an idea I always had in my mind for some time ...

    Hope it helps ...

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:03 pm

    Should try the Ju-88 for fit Shocked Really like your ideas and work. And the more I see, the more I am getting tempted to start building some AFVs again - maybe I need a break from aircraft Smile (haven't build a tank in 11 years, started but not finished). Keep posting.


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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Guest on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:36 pm

    Boy Ivan you sure do know your history, mine dogs, great idea, unfortunatly for the Russians it back fired on them.
    Yet i really like that idea alot, it would add alot to the story, hmmmmm, where to find a dog willing enough Smile


    FJ, i take breaks too from armor, this year i did an E-boat, and plan on the new Dragon Ta 152 soon.
    Try it, you'll like it.

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  iCocker on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:31 am

    Thanks Luft, I am in love with strange incidents in history!

    Yep it was a horrible invension and seems the Russians did not realise that dogs go back to their owners when treatened ... Surprised

    I think it would add interest, seems Zvezda are coming to your rescue as they are planning one of the hunters with his poor dog as a future release, apart that you can rely to a Historex dog or Andrea Miniatures. Some years ago for Euromilitaire Per Olav Lund made a very interesting dio with these hounds ... he used the Andrea wolfs converted a bit ...

    Keep them coming!

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Guest on Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:00 pm

    Started on the figs for this, i did post this in the fig section as well only because i'm a little fustrated with
    working with Vallejo paints, in the pics here his uniform looks a bit blue, most likely due to the flash. But
    in person its not bad, this is Vallejo 085 German uniform. In the past i used Tamiya XF-65 Field Grey or
    RLM Grey. Unfortunatly Tamiya doen't brush on well at all, thus i'm trying Vallejo now.




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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  in nannu pec on Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:08 pm

    Hi Friend,
    Very Happy
    AFV 's is not my topic in modelling....but your work is impressive.....nice going....
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    Looks good...

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:29 pm

    wish my figs turned out like this...did you drybrush?

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:29 pm

    I like the figure... good animated action in it.

    It coming along very good.

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    Post  Guest on Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:40 pm

    Much thanks Louis, Dottore and Noel. Yes after i painted the base color i added white to it
    and went back over it again (drybrush). Its not done, but do you think his Tunic color is ok?

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:59 pm

    Looking good Luftiger, keep them coming, would love to see your experience with the pigments now ...

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  Guest on Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:59 am

    Well, i know its been awhile my friends, it's summer here so much work to do outside before winter, has
    slowed my building down a bit. Basically it's all done until i can find some Russian soldiers that will work
    with this story. So here it is, but i will do better pics later when i find those Russkies!














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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  iCocker on Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:16 am

    Luft


    Love the action and drama to the scene, the figures speak a lot well done! Looks like you tried pigments down there!

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    Re: An Elephants desperate fight!

    Post  alexbb on Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:18 am

    love the animation overall a very very good peice of modelling

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