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What tools do you have in your toolbox?
clioguy- Bronze
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Wanted to start a thread where we can know what kind of tools and hardware each of us use. This is especially aimed at the more "senior" or "experienced" members, so that us juniors (I still consider myself as a junior or inexperienced) can see what is a must have and what is just money down the bin. Photos and sources would not be a bad idea as well.
Thanks!
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an industrial jack hammer with a 300 bar compressor to cut away my panel lines a 24 inch paint roller and a 2hp skorpion power saw to cut plastic off sprues.
dont take any notice of me im still under the influence of ur recent trip, suffering from over eating, over tpecliq and over fun
nice idea that way we can shre our opinions on differt tools and methods
p.s. want to know anything on anything specific just fire away
dont take any notice of me im still under the influence of ur recent trip, suffering from over eating, over tpecliq and over fun
nice idea that way we can shre our opinions on differt tools and methods
p.s. want to know anything on anything specific just fire away
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Invest in a DREMEL power tool with minibits, that is one investment surely worth all the money!
clioguy- Bronze
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what about more basic tools and hardware? like what do you use to apply putty, what putty/filler, what tool to cut parts from sprues, etc?
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iCocker wrote:Invest in a DREMEL power tool with minibits, that is one investment surely worth all the money!
definetly ivan. most if not all the mini bits can come in handy
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i usually apply putty with dental probes these can be easily found nowadays in most online model shops el greco miniature have good ones besides(he is also maltese and a great guy i hear)clioguy wrote:what about more basic tools and hardware? like what do you use to apply putty, what putty/filler, what tool to cut parts from sprues, etc?
http://www.elgrecominiatures.co.uk/index1.html?lang=en-uk&target=search.html&lmd=0.3298563047579242,
as for cutting plastic from sprues i use a good quality flush cutting nipper
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if u wanna i bring one to you in thursday
if u wanna i bring one to you in thursday
clioguy- Bronze
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matilda wrote:scriber.
if u wanna i bring one to you in thursday
Thanks Stevan, but I have enough scribers. What I was after is the most basic tools. Personally, I tend to collect a great number of tools which I end up not using. Instead, I feel like I am missing the most important and basic tools. Eg, I don't have a flush cutter like Alex mentioned... instead I cut the parts off the sprue with scissors, then eat away at the remaining plastic with a knife (and usually damage the part in the process).
I also have rubbing compounds, dissolved putty, etc.... but then I have never used milliput (although I have it and it is still new).
So what I am looking at is.... what are the essential tools?
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Best tool for putty nad sculpting is the cheap toothpick dipped in superglue ... economy at it's best LOL
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This is a list of the basic tools that one would require to start 'Scale Modelling', it may be seen a bit childish but this forms part of the handout we distributed to students during the summer school. Some copies are still available at club.
Modelling Tools
To start building scale models, you need to create a "tool kit" of basic and some more specialized tools and materials. For the most part, inexpensive tools and materials are available and you can even find household and hardware items to fill up your tool kit. The basic tool/material list is:
• hobby knife (standard #11 pointed blade)
• cutting mat
• sandpaper (#400 grit or finer wet or dry sandpaper)
• liquid cement, white PVA glue and ‘super glue’
• masking tape
• modelling paints (the collection will be built along the time)
• paint brushes (#00 and #1 size brushes)
• putty or filler (A+B putty)
• clamps or vices (number of different types)
• needle files
• pin drill + drill bits
• a small pair of side cutter
• scissors (cutting decal sheets)
• toothpicks (to hold parts like wheels for painting or for stirring paint)
• kitchen cleansers (for washing plastic parts)
• small plastic or glass tubs or containers (to hold parts, for decal solutions and paint mixing)
• plasticine or clay (for holding parts and weight distribution)
• black ink (for detailing parts such as panel lines)
• and tweezers (great for holding parts and positioning them).
The big challenge is to learn to use each of the tools and make the most of them. Remember the old adage "A good workman (or craftsperson) never blames his tools".
Hope that this would answer some of your questions, and don't tell me that you are still using the scissors to cut the plastic parts!! so you were not paying attention during our talks on scale modelling
I for one do not posses any specialized or fancy tools, just the basic.
Duncan when are we going to start bending those photoetched parts
Modelling Tools
To start building scale models, you need to create a "tool kit" of basic and some more specialized tools and materials. For the most part, inexpensive tools and materials are available and you can even find household and hardware items to fill up your tool kit. The basic tool/material list is:
• hobby knife (standard #11 pointed blade)
• cutting mat
• sandpaper (#400 grit or finer wet or dry sandpaper)
• liquid cement, white PVA glue and ‘super glue’
• masking tape
• modelling paints (the collection will be built along the time)
• paint brushes (#00 and #1 size brushes)
• putty or filler (A+B putty)
• clamps or vices (number of different types)
• needle files
• pin drill + drill bits
• a small pair of side cutter
• scissors (cutting decal sheets)
• toothpicks (to hold parts like wheels for painting or for stirring paint)
• kitchen cleansers (for washing plastic parts)
• small plastic or glass tubs or containers (to hold parts, for decal solutions and paint mixing)
• plasticine or clay (for holding parts and weight distribution)
• black ink (for detailing parts such as panel lines)
• and tweezers (great for holding parts and positioning them).
The big challenge is to learn to use each of the tools and make the most of them. Remember the old adage "A good workman (or craftsperson) never blames his tools".
Hope that this would answer some of your questions, and don't tell me that you are still using the scissors to cut the plastic parts!! so you were not paying attention during our talks on scale modelling
I for one do not posses any specialized or fancy tools, just the basic.
Duncan when are we going to start bending those photoetched parts
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Duncan you've just earned a COPY for your negligence
Write this 500 times "I must pay attention in class" and no you cannot use carbon paper and no you cannot use two biros
Write this 500 times "I must pay attention in class" and no you cannot use carbon paper and no you cannot use two biros
Dottore- Gold
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For anything...
but the smallest PE parts I recommend a bending tool...though I doubt the diehards like cus Alex has one...I know Ivan has the latest generation one which is sweeeet!For the larger parts and especially fenders and boxes it is a must IMHO...
Echo the others re Dremel...its the only good thing I got from my last relationship and it saved my skin when 3hrs before leaving for euro the Cromwell turret didnt fit because the screw used to fix hull to base was hitting the breech...enter Mr Dremel and that was the end of the breech...just imagine hacking off a chunky plastic breech of a fully painted and weathered tank with anything else!
On another note I CANNOT not mention Gator Glue...you dont realise how precious it is until u start using it...which reminds me I'm running out of it so if someone is going to order any soon factor me in please...
And as Ivan mentioned good old tooth pics I find useful for applying glue...putty...removing glue remnants and a host of other things...
Apart from all the other basic tools mentioned above obviously...
Dottore
Echo the others re Dremel...its the only good thing I got from my last relationship and it saved my skin when 3hrs before leaving for euro the Cromwell turret didnt fit because the screw used to fix hull to base was hitting the breech...enter Mr Dremel and that was the end of the breech...just imagine hacking off a chunky plastic breech of a fully painted and weathered tank with anything else!
On another note I CANNOT not mention Gator Glue...you dont realise how precious it is until u start using it...which reminds me I'm running out of it so if someone is going to order any soon factor me in please...
And as Ivan mentioned good old tooth pics I find useful for applying glue...putty...removing glue remnants and a host of other things...
Apart from all the other basic tools mentioned above obviously...
Dottore
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Dottore wrote:but the smallest PE parts I recommend a bending tool...though I doubt the diehards like cus Alex has one...I know Ivan has the latest generation one which is sweeeet!For the larger parts and especially fenders and boxes it is a must IMHO...
Echo the others re Dremel...its the only good thing I got from my last relationship and it saved my skin when 3hrs before leaving for euro the Cromwell turret didnt fit because the screw used to fix hull to base was hitting the breech...enter Mr Dremel and that was the end of the breech...just imagine hacking off a chunky plastic breech of a fully painted and weathered tank with anything else!
On another note I CANNOT not mention Gator Glue...you dont realise how precious it is until u start using it...which reminds me I'm running out of it so if someone is going to order any soon factor me in please...
And as Ivan mentioned good old tooth pics I find useful for applying glue...putty...removing glue remnants and a host of other things...
Apart from all the other basic tools mentioned above obviously...
Dottore
cus you baffle me
why cut the breech when you could have easily cut the top part of the screw with a disc cutter (black round flat things) whithout risking damage to the model, re etch mate i do have one but i only use it to bend long pe parts i prefer my pistarino square flat pliers
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I apply putty with an old blunted blade. i often add nail polish remover to make it more managable.
Joseph.. I have all the tools you mentioned, except i do not have needle files, ink? & scissors. I use surgical blades almost for everything.
You forgot loads of CLOTH for cleaning brushes/plastic, holding, protecting...
Also an important tool in your inventory... GLASS PAINT! (green & red) used for navigation lights & those green glass panels you find on helicopters
Joseph.. I have all the tools you mentioned, except i do not have needle files, ink? & scissors. I use surgical blades almost for everything.
You forgot loads of CLOTH for cleaning brushes/plastic, holding, protecting...
Also an important tool in your inventory... GLASS PAINT! (green & red) used for navigation lights & those green glass panels you find on helicopters
clioguy- Bronze
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I am no longer using scissors to cut plastic because I did pay attention (frankajta il-COPY Ray!)
This is why I started this post. During the lessons I noticed how incorrect my tool box is. Now I have a Christmas shopping list!
Joe, are you coming to the club tomorrow? We can bend those PEs tomorrow, if you don't mind.....
This is why I started this post. During the lessons I noticed how incorrect my tool box is. Now I have a Christmas shopping list!
Joe, are you coming to the club tomorrow? We can bend those PEs tomorrow, if you don't mind.....
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I have to agree that Etchmate is another gadget worth the investment especially when you need to do boxes and fenders which are long ...
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alex GIMLI wrote:Dottore wrote:but the smallest PE parts I recommend a bending tool...though I doubt the diehards like cus Alex has one...I know Ivan has the latest generation one which is sweeeet!For the larger parts and especially fenders and boxes it is a must IMHO...
Echo the others re Dremel...its the only good thing I got from my last relationship and it saved my skin when 3hrs before leaving for euro the Cromwell turret didnt fit because the screw used to fix hull to base was hitting the breech...enter Mr Dremel and that was the end of the breech...just imagine hacking off a chunky plastic breech of a fully painted and weathered tank with anything else!
On another note I CANNOT not mention Gator Glue...you dont realise how precious it is until u start using it...which reminds me I'm running out of it so if someone is going to order any soon factor me in please...
And as Ivan mentioned good old tooth pics I find useful for applying glue...putty...removing glue remnants and a host of other things...
Apart from all the other basic tools mentioned above obviously...
Dottore
cus you baffle me
why cut the breech when you could have easily cut the top part of the screw with a disc cutter (black round flat things) whithout risking damage to the model, re etch mate i do have one but i only use it to bend long pe parts i prefer my pistarino square flat pliers
Lurked in the shadows until I comprehanded exactly what went wrong
Doc Roe, you are a LEGEND for PUNISHMENT
So do you occasionally take off the turret to GAZE & ENJOY THE POINTED TIP OF THE SCREW??????? WAS IT A PHILIPS OR A FLAT SCREW???????
I HIGHLIGHTED YOUR NEAR ORGASMIC STATEMENT/EXPLANATION kemm int helu imma
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No Ray....
The turret is fixed so I can't LOL...and it was a bolt!!!
Dottore
Dottore
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Dottore wrote:The turret is fixed so I can't LOL...and it was a bolt!!!
Dottore
Could you have cut off the BOLT with MR.DREMEL instead of hacking at the breech?
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Common sense says....
that since neither breech nor bolt were visible...its much easier to cut away a plastic breech than a 4mm metal bolt!!!!
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
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not to barge in, when not unbolt the bolt????
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Dottore wrote:that since neither breech nor bolt were visible...its much easier to cut away a plastic breech than a 4mm metal bolt!!!!
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
TRY & EXPLAIN THIS TO YOUR VENERABLE COUSIN SINCE HE INSTIGATED THIS DISCUSSION/BASHING RE YOU
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Dottore wrote:that since neither breech nor bolt were visible...its much easier to cut away a plastic breech than a 4mm metal bolt!!!!
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
cus. we are talking about a dremel mini drill minimum 5000 rpm any cutter you where using would start melting the plastic and make cutting all the more difficult. now if you where using the dremel metal disc cutters (black round flat things) you could cut a 1cm stainless steel bolt in seconds let alone a 4mm soft steel bolt. this i was thought by our departed freind ray borg, god bless him. and yes you are right common sense is not that comom.
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alex GIMLI wrote:Dottore wrote:that since neither breech nor bolt were visible...its much easier to cut away a plastic breech than a 4mm metal bolt!!!!
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
cus. we are talking about a dremel mini drill minimum 5000 rpm any cutter you where using would start melting the plastic and make cutting all the more difficult. now if you where using the dremel metal disc cutters (black round flat things) you could cut a 1cm stainless steel bolt in seconds let alone a 4mm soft steel bolt. this i was thought by our departed freind ray borg, god bless him. and yes you are right common sense is not that comom.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
XI PJACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR
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Ray wrote:alex GIMLI wrote:Dottore wrote:that since neither breech nor bolt were visible...its much easier to cut away a plastic breech than a 4mm metal bolt!!!!
As they say common sense is not common at all eh Ray?
Dottore
cus. we are talking about a dremel mini drill minimum 5000 rpm any cutter you where using would start melting the plastic and make cutting all the more difficult. now if you where using the dremel metal disc cutters (black round flat things) you could cut a 1cm stainless steel bolt in seconds let alone a 4mm soft steel bolt. this i was thought by our departed freind ray borg, god bless him. and yes you are right common sense is not that comom.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
XI PJACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR
idhak idhak ray
what goes round comes around
ejja lets get this place into normal running mode cos we slacked down a bit lately
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