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    Post  skyhigh Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:54 pm

    Wayne wrote:Great pic marco.

    What was the status of the indicator? I assume it was only 'up' when the landing gear was down and was recessed during flight to reduce drag.

    Also, about the night intruder version, where they still standard colours or were they painted over in black/gray? I've never seen a model of one before and I think an 'intruder' would make a very interesting and unusual subject don't you think?


    Yes the indicator was for the udercarriage, and the colour was just distemper black on standard colours....
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    Post  skyhigh Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:56 pm

    Here is a document to confirm your version of A8 R8....

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    Post  RayCaruana Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:12 pm

    Smile Imma kemm togghobni Marco Laughing Kif tidhollha qatta bla habel xi hag' hekk study Onestament niehu pjacir wisq narak tfittex u tghin ghax jinhass li jkun gej mill-passjoni li ghandek ghas-suggett cheers Issa jien ma narafx ajruplan minn bicycle ta, imma xorta nsegwik!
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    Post  skyhigh Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:32 am

    Grazzi tal komplamnet...niehu pjacir li hemm interes anki min ma jibnix ajruplani , imma da sugget wisq interesanti vera....

    Jiena nara lil Ivan bhali , li jidhol hafna fi dettal specjalment fejn jidhlu tankijiet u kavaliri....


    War kollox ghalek qedin ghawn , jien nithalem minnek inti mini, u kuhadd min xulxin... cheers
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    Post  iCocker Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:09 am

    skyhigh wrote:Grazzi tal komplamnet...niehu pjacir li hemm interes anki min ma jibnix ajruplani , imma da sugget wisq interesanti vera....

    Jiena nara lil Ivan bhali , li jidhol hafna fi dettal specjalment fejn jidhlu tankijiet u kavaliri....


    War kollox ghalek qedin ghawn , jien nithalem minnek inti mini, u kuhadd min xulxin... cheers

    Grazzi tal-kumpliment Marco, biss ghadni l-boghod ghal kapacita kif jirnexxilhekk issib sa l-inqass detall, Brillanti mate ... ma ninsewx lil John Mangion, arkivju iehor fejn tidhol ricerka!

    Naqbel hafna ma Marco, biss ghalhekk nibqu mixjien, nitaghlmu min xulxien ... u d-dhul tal-internett forsi hafna jarawh x'kiel ghamel il-hajja facli ghar-ricerkatur li jista jifli aktar u jiltaqa anke ma storici u awturi aktar facli min qabel ... biss twemmini wiehed, ma naghmel xejn Bibja qabel ma nsib 3 storici jghidu l-istess haga min ricerka differenti, u importanti li minn ha jibda jirecerka bir-reqqa ifittex l-aktar dokumenti ricenti ghax kieku tafu kemm jinqalu polemici kultant ... prosit guys, looks gonna be a year the Wolf mhux of the Rabbit [Kalendarju Ciniz] ghal Aircraft Nuts!
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    Post  Ray Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:32 am

    iCocker wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Grazzi tal komplamnet...niehu pjacir li hemm interes anki min ma jibnix ajruplani , imma da sugget wisq interesanti vera....

    Jiena nara lil Ivan bhali , li jidhol hafna fi dettal specjalment fejn jidhlu tankijiet u kavaliri....


    War kollox ghalek qedin ghawn , jien nithalem minnek inti mini, u kuhadd min xulxin... cheers

    Grazzi tal-kumpliment Marco, biss ghadni l-boghod ghal kapacita kif jirnexxilhekk issib sa l-inqass detall, Brillanti mate ... ma ninsewx lil John Mangion, arkivju iehor fejn tidhol ricerka!

    Naqbel hafna ma Marco, biss ghalhekk nibqu mixjien, nitaghlmu min xulxien ... u d-dhul tal-internett forsi hafna jarawh x'kiel ghamel il-hajja facli ghar-ricerkatur li jista jifli aktar u jiltaqa anke ma storici u awturi aktar facli min qabel ... biss twemmini wiehed, ma naghmel xejn Bibja qabel ma nsib 3 storici jghidu l-istess haga min ricerka differenti, u importanti li minn ha jibda jirecerka bir-reqqa ifittex l-aktar dokumenti ricenti ghax kieku tafu kemm jinqalu polemici kultant ... prosit guys, looks gonna be a year the Wolf mhux of the Rabbit [Kalendarju Ciniz] ghal Aircraft Nuts!

    Can't help to chime in Laughing

    Yes, this is what seperates SSM from the rest after all cheers

    Marco, (with all due respect to Ivan & John) you are SSM's LIVING LEGEND I love you

    Wayne.......this MUST be 101% when finished pale
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    Post  Wayne Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:24 pm

    I'm doing my best not to let you down guys Very Happy

    I want to make sure that it's as historically accurate as possible.

    Thanks again for the comments and invaluable help/advice.


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    Post  bcauchi Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:51 pm

    If you follow Marco's lead you will end up with a very nice and accurate FW Wayne so you are on the right track and all is looking really good. i am looking forward to see your build painted.
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    Post  Wayne Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:58 pm

    Time to put some progress on this bird, starting from the engine. We discussed this briefly at the club: a coat of gun metal (Humbrol 53) or Testors followed by a wash.

    However I want to go a bit overboard and paint the thing as it would have actually looked. I know it's gonna be covered but you never know what crazy idea I might have (like exposing the engine somehow) as I go along so better get it right the first time.

    The Fw190 A8 had a BMW 801 D-2 radial engine. I read somewhere (not sure exactly where) that Jerry engines were painted black. But the 801 D on display at Duxford is all shiny :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_801. Could this engine be post-war? I'm not even sure production continued after the war.

    My guess is that the engine block was black but the cylinder heads had a metal finish.

    Any ideas?


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    Post  bcauchi Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:32 pm

    Go for all black Wayne. When you decide to use a reference, try to use actual photos from wartime and not museum pieces unless of course you know that they are still in their original state.
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    Post  skyhigh Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:08 pm

    Yes Wayne it is black ......


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    Post  Wayne Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:21 pm

    I found some spare time and am attempting to scratch build the seat belts for my 'butcher bird' cockpit. At the moment I'm fiddling around with some masking tape and fine wire. Here's a prototype with 1 buckle.

    FW190 A8/R8 - 1/48 - Page 3 Seatbelt1

    At the moment it looks slightly over-scale to my eyes compared to the rest of the cockpit, but it's proving very difficult and fiddly to do it smaller.

    Also, I'm trying to find some good reference photos to correctly shape and position the belts and buckles, but (unsurprisingly) seatbelts do not make interesting photo subjects so these are scarce.

    UPDATE:

    Here's my first belt. Slightly better than the prototype.

    FW190 A8/R8 - 1/48 - Page 3 Seatbelt2

    The end buckle should be triangular but I cannot manage yet. Also I think that the wire I'm using is slightly too thick. Will try stripping some copper wire next and try that.

    As always, comments welcome




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    Post  skyhigh Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:59 pm

    Wayne I will post you some photos....
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:13 pm

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    Post  Wayne Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:16 pm

    Amazing Marco!

    Thanks for the pics and for taking the time to find them! cheers

    Cheers


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    Post  skyhigh Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:42 pm

    or else go for eduard ...


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    Post  Wayne Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:47 pm

    True, I could go for photo etched parts - they would probably look better but it's more fun making them Smile


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    Post  Wayne Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:53 am

    So, I'm sure you'll all agree that my first attempt at scratch building the seat belts was far from successful. Frankly It looked hideous.

    But I wasn't going to give up, so here's my next attempt. I used thinner wire and carefully used tweezers to correctly shape the buckles:

    FW190 A8/R8 - 1/48 - Page 3 Seatbelt_2-front
    Front

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    FW190 A8/R8 - 1/48 - Page 3 Seatbelt_2-compared
    Compared to a toothpick

    FW190 A8/R8 - 1/48 - Page 3 Seatbelt_2-decal
    Compared to the kit's decal

    I purposely left the excess wire there until the belt was finished as I found it much easier to handle. The seat belt itself is made out of a 1mm strip of Tamiya tape, roughly twice the required length. I then passed the tape through the triangular buckle until the buckle was in the middle of the strip. Bending the tape around the buckle produced the correct length belt with the buckle at the end.

    The other buckle was slightly trickier. I made a small ring out of wire for the buckle, bent the tape where the buckle would be positioned and passed the tape through the ring forming a loop. I then took another piece of wire, passed it through the loop and pulled back the tape to tighten the belt around the miniature buckle. Super Glue did rest.

    I'm pretty pleased with the result, and compared to the decal, the scale is there.

    Now it's just a question of making another one!

    Once again, comments are welcome!


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    Post  skyhigh Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:11 pm

    There you are , You see Wayne when there is a will there's a way ....they look brillant.... cheers
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    Post  Wayne Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:40 pm

    Cheers Mate. Thanks for the encouragement Smile


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