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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  J.Fenech on Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:22 pm

    Unless it is the picture, there are areas where a light color is showing through under the blue. Yes you have to apply gloss cover to protect the blue paint then decals which need a gloss base unless you want trouble.

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  Gordon on Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:42 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XCU7ABBVgs&feature=related

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  clioguy on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:43 pm

    After the comments I received and after looking carefully at the colours, I decided to strip the plane clean and re-spray. Undercoat is now on, hopefully tomorrow I will give it an aluminium coating on the bottom, then the blue once more


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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  AdriaN on Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:58 am

    what primer you using? did you wet sand it? cos it looks pretty smooth!

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    Post  clioguy on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:50 am

    Model Master Gray Primer thinned about 60 - 40 (60 thinner, 40 paint). Left to dry for 3 days, then lightly sanded with a wet 2400Grit Polishing Pad from Micromark.....and yes, it is smooth Very Happy Very Happy

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    Post  clioguy on Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:41 pm

    Today applied an aluminium finish to the bottom of the Aermacchi. Paint used is Model Master Aliuminium thinned with Nitro Cellulose thinner.

    When dry, I will mask it off and paint the Blue Angels blue.


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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  AdriaN on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:01 pm

    clioguy wrote:Model Master Gray Primer thinned about 60 - 40 (60 thinner, 40 paint). Left to dry for 3 days, then lightly sanded with a wet 2400Grit Polishing Pad from Micromark.....and yes, it is smooth Very Happy Very Happy



    Model Master Gray Primer!!?? Shocked Shocked
    There is something seriously wrong with their batch of primer. I have it, i had sprayed it on my Mystere (& brushed it) and it never dried! 2 weeks later it was still tacky and would come off if you scratched it. the heat of my finger would turn it soft again! Evil or Very Mad
    Before this tin, i had used another tin on my panther, took a few days to totally dry but when dry it was nice and hard Very Happy I came to use it again.. and i found it turned into chewing gum Evil or Very Mad

    happens to you?




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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  clioguy on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:05 pm

    yes, happened to me as well... it is very sensitive to moisture in the air and the amount of thinner used. If it's a damp day, don't use it. I used it on the Wildcat and after 3 weeks it was still tacky. I used the same batch (actually the same bottle) on the Aermacchi and in 2 days it was dry.

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  AdriaN on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:16 pm

    Thanks for that tip Cool I had sprayed both the Panther and Mystere in July. Just one in 2009 and the other in 2010. I posted a thread on a forum and they said its a default batch. who knows. I had tested it twice and it came out tacky.
    I had used white spirit. i dont think it effects it though.


    Btw i find MM aluminum peels easily with masking tape or blue tac, so be carefull. i would spray the blue then alum Rolling Eyes

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    Post  clioguy on Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:24 pm

    I thin my paints with Nitro Cellulose thinner...don't like White Spirit.

    I have also already sprayed and masked MM aluminium with no difficulties.

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  clioguy on Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:03 pm

    Further to the aluminium coating earlier, I masked up the bottom and sprayed the aircraft with MM Blue Angels blue. I have to say the result is much better than I expected






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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:41 pm

    Lovely work, it is really coming along nicely

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  Ray on Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:42 pm

    Very nice Duncan & sorry so late but I overlooked this thread somehow Sad

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:23 am

    Sorry for being so crude Duncan, but or the flash of the photo or the blue is to light this time...... Exclamation Question

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    Post  clioguy on Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:46 am

    think it's the flash Marco. You can see it's quite darker on the tail section where there is not a lot of flash reflection.

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  AdriaN on Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:11 am

    its def. the flash Twisted Evil blue angel blue is much darker

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:35 am

    Again.... are you sure it's the same blue...







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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  Gordon on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:07 pm

    If you are going to use the kit's decals, the blue is lighter then the actual beacause these are the 1986 decals and at that time the Frecce were darker than today's. Some time ago I had bought the correct paint from the internet, however at the moment I can't remember from where (I will try to check it out!)


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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  Gordon on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:27 pm

    Xtracolor X374 frecce Tricolori Dark Blue

    http://www.google.com.mt/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aero-spezial-modellbauversand.de/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/162_0.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aero-spezial-modellbauversand.de/Farben/Xtracolor/Italien:::1_2_13.html%3Flanguage%3Den&usg=__ZkXDLw8vFF0xeuSTJRbnNE_jaOk=&h=120&w=120&sz=5&hl=mt&start=1&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=RQ4ZOcRlwW5YPM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=88&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dx374%2Bfrecce%2Btricolori%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dmt%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D726%26tbm%3Disch&ei=P-S7TYH1EsPGtAaQvbGJBg

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  clioguy on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:50 pm

    Marco, the blue is dark, I can assure you.... it all depends on the undercoat you give.

    When I tried it on a white undercoat, it came out like the Blue ANgels F-18 pic you posted. I then decided to give it a dark grey undercoat (MM Grey Primer) and it is quite dark.

    Gordon, yes I am going to use the kit decals.

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  Gordon on Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:59 pm

    I am in wrong not 1986 but 1998

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    Re: Clioguy's Frecce Tricolori

    Post  J.Fenech on Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:14 pm

    I understand that the blue angels blue is dark, but still have my doubts that it is the correct shade of blue, IHMO i think that the frecce should be in a deeper blue. If the primer changed the color - well I think you have a problem, as you cannot control it and may be off! but we need to see it in good lightning without camera flashes.

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