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    He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:09 pm

    This is the other little gem I got today... Christmas came early santa

    I couldn't resist dry fitting the bits together tongue



    This will be my next project.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:39 pm

    Lovely bird Wayne Twisted Evil

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  in nannu pec on Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:49 am

    agree with Ray...lovely bird so long as you don't attach the wings backside first lol! lol! lol! lol! ....that's what I did...a real boob classic in my long modelling life lol! lol! lol!
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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:07 am

    in nannu pec wrote:agree with Ray...lovely bird so long as you don't attach the wings backside first lol! lol! lol! lol! ....that's what I did...a real boob classic in my long modelling life lol! lol! lol!
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    Yes wayne that was a real laugh we had ... when me and Aldo first saw this He from louis build, we looked at each other and sad should we told him or not ,, but you'r getting yo now us by now ...we told him infront of everybody and we laughed so much ...those were the days louis ....



    Ironically the luftwaffe had one simillar... Shocked Laughing lol! lol!





    You see wayne at that time Louis was exp, modeling,like Robert is doing at the moment, enjoying modeling in every sector , and of course for me he succed it , look at him now a days ... God bless him and I wish him a lot of modeling years....


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:10 am

    Wayne Just to giveyou some boost...






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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  in nannu pec on Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:21 pm

    skyhigh wrote:
    in nannu pec wrote:agree with Ray...lovely bird so long as you don't attach the wings backside first lol! lol! lol! lol! ....that's what I did...a real boob classic in my long modelling life lol! lol! lol!
    In nannu Cool

    Yes wayne that was a real laugh we had ... when me and Aldo first saw this He from louis build, we looked at each other and sad should we told him or not ,, but you'r getting yo now us by now ...we told him infront of everybody and we laughed so much ...those were the days louis ....



    Ironically the luftwaffe had one simillar... Shocked Laughing lol! lol!





    You see wayne at that time Louis was exp, modeling,like Robert is doing at the moment, enjoying modeling in every sector , and of course for me he succed it , look at him now a days ... God bless him and I wish him a lot of modeling years....


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:58 am

    As most of you know, I've chosen this bird for my work subject during the Scale Modelling Weekend we just had.

    I have started by drilling out the relatively few rivet holes and re-scribing the panel lines. Inspired by my fellow wing nuts I then started to add some scratch-detail to the cockpit, gun port and wheel wells (pics to follow soon).

    I'm finding scratch building very enjoyable however I cannot ignore the fact that there are resin detail sets which would in the end look much better than what I'm doing.

    My gut feeling is to continue with the scratch building. I'm not one for taking shortcuts even if the end result might not be as good looking or as accurate as a ready-made detail set. Some might not agree, but the way I see it is that in the end I'm learning as I go along. I'm also saving some money which could be spent on later projects and/or supplies. I will also be able to say "Hey... I made that!"

    So that's my philosophy on this project. I am also setting a deadline of 90 days, roughly the time it took Heinkel to take their design to production.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  in nannu pec on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:06 am

    Wayne wrote:As most of you know, I've chosen this bird for my work subject during the Scale Modelling Weekend we just had.

    I have started by drilling out the relatively few rivet holes and re-scribing the panel lines. Inspired by my fellow wing nuts I then started to add some scratch-detail to the cockpit, gun port and wheel wells (pics to follow soon).

    I'm finding scratch building very enjoyable however I cannot ignore the fact that there are resin detail sets which would in the end look much better than what I'm doing.

    My gut feeling is to continue with the scratch building. I'm not one for taking shortcuts even if the end result might not be as good looking or as accurate as a ready-made detail set. Some might not agree, but the way I see it is that in the end I'm learning as I go along. I'm also saving some money which could be spent on later projects and/or supplies. I will also be able to say "Hey... I made that!"


    I concur Wayne....so much satisfaction when you create your own stuff...still with the offerings today...it facilitates modelling and save so much time...still I prefer doing my own stuff...yes and I agree when finished you'd say to yourself....ALL MY OWN WORK !!!! Smile Smile
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    So that's my philosophy on this project. I am also setting a deadline of 90 days, roughly the time it took Heinkel to take their design to production.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:18 am

    Wayne, irrelevant of any "resin replacements" you still must add WIRING Shocked so if the cockpit & wheel wells are ok to go by, its good to save money & spend it wisely when the call is "ürgent" Suspect

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  bcauchi on Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:30 pm

    Wayne, resin stuff is not necessarily better than what you do or even the kit parts many times. Go easy on spending money on resin. first make sure you see the parts and compare them to photos and the kit parts. Many times they are inaccurate and other times only very slightly different to the kit parts, something you can do right by minimal detailing or adjustment. Many aftermarket companies just bank on the fact that people will just buy their parts because they automatically assume that they are correct and the kit is not! Not to mention the often 'flat' photoetched which in real life have a cerain thickness. I think you are reasoning correctly and just go for stuff which is either totally bad in the kit and needs replacement or something which will really make a difference like those seat belts from Radu Brinzan.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  iCocker on Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:28 pm

    As many already hinted Wayne do not waste time, effort and above all money on minute details that are irrevalant to the common eye and just nonsense to the Salamander export which I guess few are around ... if it has the shape and the error is minimal I leave it, there are many other things that should be accounted of, and need more time and enjoyment ... personally it is the painting, weathering and display of the model ... finally that is what counts, I have seen models out of the box, that look far better then any perfect to scale replica model done from rivet counters : )

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:06 pm

    Here are the promised pics of the cockpit and gun-port detail I was working on during Sunday afternoon.

    The cockpit pieces are very loosely positioned, just to give an idea of where they go.


    Cockpit - Port


    Cockpit - Starboard


    Gun-Port

    I'm looking for images showing the gun-port in detail. All I did so far was replace existing plastic detail with wiring, so hopefully I will be able to embellish this a bit more.

    Comments welcome as usual.. no matter how brutal tongue and thanks for having a look Very Happy


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:29 pm

    Finally found a clear picture of the gun-port



    Looks like I need to drill some more holes, but most of the detail seems to be there.

    What's interesting is the way the gun-port 'door' opens. In some pictures it is shown open downwards and in others it is shown opened upwards. Hinges can clearly be seen on both sides of the hatch, but the kit is missing the lower ones.

    I'm choosing to open the hatch downwards given that it will give a better view of the gun port. I just have to add the lower hinges to the model.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Proximo41 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:24 am

    well done Wayne. As you can see from the photo you did not need any resin!! everything is quite nicely represented in this model!! keep up the good work!

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:12 am

    Proximo41 wrote:well done Wayne. As you can see from the photo you did not need any resin!! everything is quite nicely represented in this model!! keep up the good work!

    I concur 101% Wayne cheers

    To date, no wiring has ever been replicated SO REAL in RESIN lol!

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:28 am

    Ray wrote:
    Proximo41 wrote:well done Wayne. As you can see from the photo you did not need any resin!! everything is quite nicely represented in this model!! keep up the good work!

    I concur 101% Wayne cheers

    To date, no wiring has ever been replicated SO REAL in RESIN lol!

    I admit it looks like an untidy bunch of random wiring but hopefully they will look better when fixed in position and painted


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  bcauchi on Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:37 pm

    Prosit Wayne, nice work, the only nitpicking is that the wire you chose is a bit too thick for that application. If you can, replace it with a thinner one. Well done all round.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:15 pm

    Added some more detail to the gun bay (left side in pic). Also added the 'lip' on the upper edge out of thick foil (thanks to Oliver for the tip!)




    Here's a photo of the real thing



    I've also added more detail to the cockpit... lots of holes being drilled Very Happy

    Next 'big' challenge is to fix the shape of the headrest because it's incorrect. No ideas of how to go about it as yet though Suspect



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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:37 am

    Nice "Oliver's lip" Wayne Laughing

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Proximo41 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:16 pm

    wayne this is my 1/32md He162. for some reason this is the only photo that i can find on my hard disk.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:25 pm

    Proximo41 wrote:wayne this is my 1/32md He162. for some reason this is the only photo that i can find on my hard disk.


    It's beautiful Chris, and we're safe scheme-wise because I wasn't going to do that one. It will prolly be White 1 from JG1:



    P.S. Why is yours missing the DF loop?


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Proximo41 on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:33 pm

    Wayne wrote:
    Proximo41 wrote:wayne this is my 1/32md He162. for some reason this is the only photo that i can find on my hard disk.


    It's beautiful Chris, and we're safe scheme-wise because I wasn't going to do that one. It will prolly be White 1 from JG1:



    P.S. Why is yours missing the DF loop?

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:39 pm

    Look at the cannon on White 1.... looks like it's been fired!



    Some are suggesting that the pilot - Rudolf Schmitt - was the one that got the only unconfirmed kill (Typhoon/Tempest) in a 162 and he did it in this aircraft.

    This is the reason I chose this scheme.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  J.Fenech on Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:11 pm

    looking great wayne, keep posting!

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