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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  in nannu pec on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:20 pm

    skyhigh wrote:
    Wayne wrote:Debonder applied.... didn't work... wheel snapped off the undercarriage leg. No 
    Pining should solve the problem (I hope) Suspect
    Yes Wayne , that's the way to do it , it's no big deal.. just some pation no swearing......Twisted Evil 
    agree don't need to drill a wide hole ...even piano wire wud do ...l'importanti ikolok ma xix tqabbad.....super glue will do the rest....and not a lot...
    ejja tomorrow tell us all ok Smile 
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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:30 pm

    Wayne even a brass or copper wire would do ta.....you're not going to secure a TRex Leg affraid

    Sorry Nannu I don't believe in piano wire for such a small thing No 


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:31 pm

    Wayne wrote:Debonder applied.... didn't work... wheel snapped off the undercarriage leg. No 
    Pining should solve the problem (I hope) Suspect

    OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN'T WORK......EXPIRED BY SOME 15YRS lol! 



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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:36 pm

    Wheel pinned and angled correctly. However the aircraft is now leaning slightly to the left when viewed from the front, a combination of the fix and the 50g or so of lead packed behind the cockpit.

    The kit could really do with a set of metal undercarriage legs but no use complaining now.



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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  bcauchi on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:46 pm

    Wayne be careful, i hope i am not going to put my foot in it but judging by the photo you sent that the drawings/photos marco posted, i think that the wheel on the right had the correct position and the one on the left was slanted too much. If you see the drawings you will realise that the wheel does not slant at the same angle of the undercarriage legs but less. Actually looking at your model from behind, the one on the right was the correct position and you needed to change the one on the left. Just my opinion judging by the pics and drawings.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:51 pm

    Wayne wrote:Wheel pinned and angled correctly.  However the aircraft is now leaning slightly to the left when viewed from the front, a combination of the fix and the 50g or so of lead packed behind the cockpit.

    The kit could really do with a set of metal undercarriage legs but no use complaining now.

    There is not THAT MUCH, but enough to "blot" the sit IMHO Evil or Very Mad 

    If I were you, I would "correct" the terrain by adding a little "hump" of putty beneath the wheel, then either retouch it to "Tarmac Status" (if the hump is not so VISIBLE) or else you can always revert to "Grass/Field Status" so to HIDE the HUMP I love you cheers

    All in All you did a Sterling Job cheers cheers cheers  

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:53 pm

    Brian, the problem is the weight. The legs are flexing outwards when the model sits on the base.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:53 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Wayne be careful, i hope i am not going to put my foot in it but judging by the photo you sent that the drawings/photos marco posted,  i think that the wheel on the right had the correct position and the one on the left was slanted too much. If you see the drawings you will realise that the wheel does not slant at the same angle of the undercarriage legs but less. Actually looking at your model from behind, the one on the right was the correct position and you needed to change the one on the left.  Just my opinion judging by the pics and drawings.
    OMG I think you are right Brian pale pale pale pale pale pale pale 


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:03 pm


    I WILL NOT PANIC.

    New game plan... I'm trying to flex the unpinned wheel into the correct position. If it will not give I will chop it off and pin the SOB like I did its sibling. Hopefully I will not continue to mess with the dihedral.

    I also have to take into consideration flexing due to weight.

    I've checked my references (albeit a bit too late) and can confirm that even with the engine on, the wheels are not at the same angle as the legs


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:11 pm

    here are some pics to show you the situation:

    model suspended, wheels appear to be aligned correctly



    model at rest, flexing is messing up the alignment



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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Proximo41 on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:15 pm

    Wayne wrote:here are some pics to show you the situation:

    model suspended, wheels appear to be aligned correctly



    Perfect!!!


    model at rest, flexing is messing up the alignment


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:29 pm

    Wayne, IMHO it is not THAT much ta Evil or Very Mad 

    I mean is it WORTH the RISK or Suspect ?

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:01 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Wayne be careful, i hope i am not going to put my foot in it but judging by the photo you sent that the drawings/photos marco posted,  i think that the wheel on the right had the correct position and the one on the left was slanted too much. If you see the drawings you will realise that the wheel does not slant at the same angle of the undercarriage legs but less. Actually looking at your model from behind, the one on the right was the correct position and you needed to change the one on the left.  Just my opinion judging by the pics and drawings.

    Brian... I'm with you. I'm seeing the same logic as you are.

    I would describe the wheel as 'vertical with a slight degree angle'

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  bcauchi on Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:10 pm

    Wayne try to 'cheat'. Try to find one or two strategic places where you can place a drop of glue to retrain this motion of the wheel leg when the weight is on it. You need to 'fix it' in place as you need it to be when the plane is at rest. So either glue it to the wheel well sides or to some other convenient location in the wheel well. Or maybe there is a support for the wheel leg u can use like the retaining springs for example. You need to find something to reinforce the position of the wheel legs.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:13 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Wayne try to 'cheat'.  Try to find one or two strategic places where you can place a drop of glue to retrain this motion of the wheel leg when the weight is on it.  You need to 'fix it' in place as you need it to be when the plane is at rest. So either glue it to the wheel well sides or to some other convenient location in the wheel well.  Or maybe there is a support for the wheel leg u can use like the retaining springs for example.  You need to find something to reinforce the position of the wheel legs.
    Sublime Idea Idea  I agree 101% cheers 

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:21 pm

    jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor   IT'S DONE  jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor 


    I managed to finish off everything, the model is officially done.  

    Will bring along next Wednesday for the group photo.


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:22 pm

    Wayne may be there is another way ,,, how about a thick leed wire as a wedge here , between the leg,,




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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:27 pm

    Ray wrote:
    Wayne wrote:Debonder applied.... didn't work... wheel snapped off the undercarriage leg. No 
    Pining should solve the problem (I hope) Suspect

    OBVIOUSLY IT DIDN'T WORK......EXPIRED BY SOME 15YRS lol! 



    I was trying to help some how........Embarassed Sad Mad 

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:46 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Wayne may be there is another way ,,, how about a thick leed wire as wage here , between the leg,,


    That's a good idea... might give it a try.  When painted it shouldn't show too much..


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:49 pm

    Wayne if you try it, try to make it as part of the pluming.......Idea 

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:55 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Wayne if you try it, try to make it as part of the pluming.......Idea 
    He's STILL GOT WHAT IT TAKES ja KATTIV Twisted Evil 

    Sorry Wayne, Do I, DO WE HAVE REASON TO SELL Sad Sad Sad ???????

    Wayne as soon as you're done with the NEW PLUMBING & THE WEDGE affraid  you know what your next build is Evil or Very Mad lol! 

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Wayne on Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:10 am

    Wayne wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Wayne may be there is another way ,,, how about a thick leed wire as wage here , between the leg,,


    That's a good idea... might give it a try.  When painted it shouldn't show too much..
    Brian, thanks for your input as well however as you can see from the image above, there is unfortunately no where to glue the legs to.  Didn't want you to think that I ignored your advice (or anyone else's for that matter)! Very Happy 

    I really learnt a lot during this first 'proper' build, from everyone.  It's not perfect but it's light years better than what I ever did before.

    So a BIG THANK-YOU to all I love you 


    Now its time for the next project... a pair of Ju 87's


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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:35 am

    Wayne, your next build should be a BF109....just an OOB Build ta Twisted Evil cheers 

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  bcauchi on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:44 am

    U jekk trid tahraq lil Marco, it has to be captured with British markings.

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    Re: He 162 Salamander 1/32

    Post  Ray on Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:49 am

    bcauchi wrote:U jekk trid tahraq lil Marco, it has to be captured with British markings.  
    No Bri....its going to be that PINK one lol! 

    Wayne is building it pale 

    JF is spraying it Twisted Evil 

    And I am painting its driver cheers 

    Look here........http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/t2182-impressive-and-possibly-stupid-shots-of-the-third-kind

    You have to scroll down Bri Laughing 

    Wayne forgive me but I couldn't help it Evil or Very Mad 

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