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    1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  Scirocco on Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:41 am

    Basic camo schemes ready, P-40 and Revell Fw-190 (mottle sheme) still require some touch ups. Other Fw is from Tamiya.





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    Post  Ray on Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:32 pm

    Looking as good as always Gordon Twisted Evil

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    Post  skyhigh on Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:15 pm

    They look nice Gordon ....what airbrush are you useing and do you use air regulator Gordon.....

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    Post  bcauchi on Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:01 pm

    Looking good Gordon but i think that the mottle on the grey fw needs to be faded a bit. But don;t listen to me unless Marco passes a comment about it. He is the man for that sort of thing. I think that it is too hard edged and too pronounced for mottle. It needs to blend in a bit, maybe slight overspray with the bluegrey. However, always consult the expert before doing anything, i might be totally wrong.

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    Post  Scirocco on Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:36 pm

    Marco,
    As regards the airbrush it's a new Paasche Talon, which I used for the first time. I used the no. 2 needle and nozzle (medium) as the no. 1 (finest) had is fine point broken, but today I just received replacment, and next week I will try it with the fine nozzle, which should improve things as regards fine details. Green paint, (both Hu & MM) seems to hate being sprayed through fine nozzles I think! Sand flowed more easily, although I would have thought the opposite. Air pressure set to around 10-15psi for fine spraying, and about 20 for general spraying.
    Brian,
    I think that you have a good point there, and believe it or not, some detail are more pronounced in photos, so after I took these I realized I had to do some retouching, on all of them. 1/72 is small for these schemes, but I will keep to this scale! (Also to support Aldo!)

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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:58 am

    1/72 is small for these schemes, but I will keep to this scale! (Also to support Aldo!)[/quote]


    Yes Gordon as long you enjoy Aircrfat modeling keep them comeing... cheers


    I asked you about the air pressure , because in my opinion you have to lower more the pressure , as you can see there is a lot of splatters around the mottle .

    So it could be dirt in the airbrush or to much air pressure, and the last one I think is your problem...

    Regarding the schemes and mottle applictions , check photos for every german scheme if you don't have just ask , it will be my pleasure.. cheers



    Here is one such scheme like you are building


    Fw-190F8 1/SG4 White 11 taxiing Italy 1944..

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    Re: 1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  Scirocco on Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:58 pm

    Marco,
    It's the very same aircraft that's depicted in the Revell decals:



    Do you think I should join the mottle spots with each other? At least that the impression from the tail.

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    Re: 1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  bcauchi on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:24 pm

    i still think that your mottle is too pronounced and looking like individual spots, they need to be more random and more like areas of paint than spots. they also need to fade into the sand colour. When i apply mottle i really go to a thin paint and slowly build up the colour. i also overspray it lightly with the base colour in the end to merge the colors.

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:33 pm

    Gordon in the photo and the drawing, they don't look spots.. but more something like the drawing ... if I find a more clear photo , I will post it .. but as I already told you, these were field applied mottles so nothing standard...

    Heq ...German schemes u... scratch study cheers

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    Post  Scirocco on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:25 pm

    And, as always, the atrist who made the box art did a lot more research than the guy who made the instructions! Why is this so common in today's kits is a mystery to me. At least it is clear that the overspray on the insignas and painting over the swastika is correct. I will have to restart the whoile top surfaces, apply the decals, and resray over them slightly or completely. And Marco, if you manage to find another photo of this aircraft, I'd be pleased as I cannot! There are a lot of photos here:

    http://www.wwiiaircraftphotos.com/luftwaffephotos/index.html


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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:53 pm

    No Gordon that's the only photo of this aircraft ..but I can find you in similar schemes to have an idea.......

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:01 pm

    May be this will help Gordon...



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    Post  Scirocco on Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:34 pm

    Some updated pictures, still not finished. I think I will give another matt coat on the P-40 as it is still too glossy. Anyone ever had any trouble super-gluing an antenna to the canopies? I have never touched transparencies with SG, and although I tested on the sprues, I don't know if there are any long term ill effects.









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    Re: 1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  Ray on Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:37 pm

    Very nice Gordon cheers

    Is there any particular reason for the SG? Suspect

    I mean can't you use PVA glue or Gator Glue? Shocked

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    1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  Paul Salomone on Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:27 am

    Well done Gordom, Very Happy

    Very nice indeed, especially the 190's.


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    Post  bcauchi on Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:25 pm

    Nice work Gordon but i think you have a bit too much overspray on the desert camo scheme.

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    Post  alexbb on Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:16 am

    re superglue versus transp it is long term effect i would suggestgator glue or the new BISON NEXUS if you can find it locally

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    Post  alexbb on Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:40 am

    re nexus homemate are now stocking this type of gel like glue.

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    Post  Wayne on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:50 pm

    Thanks for the tip Alex.


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    Post  Scirocco on Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:17 pm

    I'll try to get Nexus then and try it out. Thanks!

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    Post  Scirocco on Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:05 pm

    I bought the Bison Nexus, but it's not good to touch and hold for a short while as it takes a lot of time to dry. So I went back to normal super glue and fixed the aerials with it. Here's the P-40 in the showcase, but I need to take some photos outside sometime.



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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:00 am

    Another nice build... model for your collection Gordon... cheers

    This model reminde me of the old Frog kits.. way back in the 70's in the same Sqd markings....
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    Re: 1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  bcauchi on Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:19 pm

    Thanks for the reminder Marco, that's how it all started. I used to go to Brittannia store in the morning, buy a model and have it built by the evening, all painted in glossy hempalin paints, shiny as a mirror. Then i used to sell them at school and buy more, and the turnout continued, what a time that was. Still have a couple of those bagged Frog and Airfix kits.

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    Re: 1/72nd Fw-190's and Airfix P-40

    Post  in nannu pec on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:15 am


    Prosit Gordon !...well done habib
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