Bf109 F4 Trop.

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:23 pm

    That looks truly an ACHIEVMENT Bri cheers 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Noel Petroni on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:48 pm

    Always a pleasure to see your work, Brian!

    One lucky model to end up in your capable hands!
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:53 pm

    Wow... Brian ... already looking Awesome......

    Brian did you follow the spinner instructions ,Question Exclamation  for the cutting of the prop blades ...







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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:04 pm

    Even the spinner cannon breech should be shorter....Exclamation 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:24 pm

    Ok Marco. The prop blades are cut at the lowest point but i see they need to be lower down in the spinner. As for the cannon muzzle, no problem, just some gentle sanding. Thanks for the details.
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:52 pm

    Brian this detail ,should be a peace of leather strap....cheers 





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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:50 pm

    Your building time is really unbeatable!!! I can't believe it!!!!

    amazing work so far!!!! Marco is like the MW50!!!
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:43 pm

    Alex Kontiveis wrote:Your building time is really unbeatable!!! I can't believe it!!!!

    amazing work so far!!!! Marco is like the MW50!!!
    Believe me Alex , It's like I'm doing the model for me....so I can't accept mistakes , with all this treasure of info we have... cheers 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:50 pm


    Yes Brian your 109 , only have the early type armour plate...cheers 



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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:52 pm

    Brian where is the paint Suspect ?
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:54 pm

    Brian the colours Should be RLM 79 Sanbraun..and RLM 78 Himmelblau..

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:01 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Brian the colours Should be RLM 79 Sanbraun..and RLM 78 Himmelblau..

    Maybe if you give him some respite re "never ending missing/adding/arranging detail" he would start using this chart now Twisted Evil 

    Marco, Have a Kit Kat Laughing  Have a Break Laughing 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:03 pm

    Brian some guide............




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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Wayne on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:04 pm

    Ray wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Brian the colours Should be RLM 79 Sanbraun..and RLM 78 Himmelblau..

    Maybe if you give him some respite re "never ending missing/adding/arranging detail" he would start using this chart now Twisted Evil 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:46 pm

    So which is it Marco, No.17 or 19? Why do you keep on calling it Sandbraun when it is sandgelb?
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:48 pm

    Marco, i bought testors 2110, Italian Sand and 2088 RLM70 Sandgelb. The Italian Sand is darker and more brownish than RLM79 which is more on the yellow side. Which shall i use?
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:34 pm

    bcauchi wrote:So which is it Marco, No.17 or 19?  Why do you keep on calling it Sandbraun when it is sandgelb?
    Ejja qal wahda hazina fl-ahhar lol! 

    Min jaf x'jaghmel ir-ricerka u jfittex ir-ritratti balissa Bri biex "igiddbek u jmerik" lol! 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:14 pm

    Ha nirispondi li dan lewwel u bil Malti ............Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil ...lili tajdli li mamndix x'nghamel, ahseb u ara int...biex toqod ghawn ghasa ghal kul ma najdu , veru mandekx x' tghamel ...Razz tongue tongue ..
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 pm

    Brian you know more then me , that there is a lot of interpretation of german RLM colours...

    Like the eg..the 82-83 mix etc etc..some say the 82 darkgreen some say 83 is the darkgreen..
    So to specify from the Italin to german 79 ...sandgelb79a for the field mix from Italian colour...and Sandbraun 79b is the official german made colour....

    by the way don't use the paint you mationed , they are no good as per colour..find something else

    here is some table from one source interpretation...







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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:58 pm

    M'ghandekx ragun lol! 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:03 pm

    Taf li ghed terga t hijackja kul tread li ghawn ,.........Rolling Eyes 
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:08 pm

    Brian these are the from late 1970's kookaburra books...

    which at that time, and I think they are the most close..

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:18 pm

    And these are from The Official Monogram Guide to Painting German Aircraft..book




    Source found here..
    http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234922452-rlm-79-the-earlier-shade/
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:21 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RLM_paint_designations


    http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_germany.htm

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/thread/1299001365/Searching+for+RLM+79+Sandbrun

    http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/colourcharts/Digital%20Luftwaffe%20WW2%20colours.pdf
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:23 pm

    Marco, you pointed out many versions of the colour but which is the correct one or rather which one do you think is correct? I was going to go along with FS 33434 and managed to produce it axactly by mixing Testors RLM79, white and yellow. What do you think? All iwant you to tell me is if you were painting this plane which version of the colour would you use? I need answers not more questions.

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