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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  iCocker on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:11 am

    skyhigh wrote:
    bcauchi wrote:That would be great. A big thank you, this is my last 109 and i don;t want to have to buy a whole decal sheet just for those insignia.  What is wrong with them?  is it the  colour of the african face?
    No the tiger , but could be retouched ..


    NO NO your wrong Brian .........you still have to build an E...to say the last....cheers 
    Marco that is not a tiger, tiger are found in asia not africa! That is a lioness as it has no spots or stripes [maybe a cheetah or leo if spots were seen]Smile

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:49 am

    Marco, both planes are the same, same camo everything. The only difference is the number and the kill markings on the tail. Otherwise both the same. So no big deal. In the colour artwork they show Red 1 without the blue demarcation on the sides but in the photos i have there is the demarcation which is slightly lower than that of Red 4 if you want to be finicky.

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:50 am

    Marco, doing a red 4 so thinly outlined in black is not easy and now that i found a red 1 just as it should be then it has been decided.

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:59 am

    bcauchi wrote:The tiger needs a touch of black on the top and the bottom, you are right of course but only a minor adjustment.  
    Bravu Bri put an "end" somewhere so we'll see it in this LIFETIME at least Twisted Evil 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:54 am

    Joking aside Ray, I value Marco's opinion, especially where Luftwaffe subjects are concerned so i will sit this out and wait to see what he has to say. I have stopped decalling short of a red 1 and kill markings to see what his opinion is. I will continue working on the kubel in the meantime and there are always the figures and ....... So much to be done.

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Tancred on Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:13 am


    Killer diorama in the making, great work as always Brian Cool 


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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:31 am

    bcauchi wrote:Joking aside Ray, I value Marco's opinion, especially where Luftwaffe subjects are concerned so i will sit this out and wait to see what he has to say. I have stopped decalling short of a red 1 and kill markings to see what his opinion is. I will continue working on the kubel in the meantime and there are always the figures and ....... So much to be done.
    I ALSO VALUE Marco's opinion Bri, maybe MUCH more than I seem to, as I PICK on HIM LEFT, RIGHT & CENTRE (the ONLY reason is, because he STOPPED scale modelling & took up PHOTOGRAPHY & thus became a TRAITOR No1) but than he may not have the "feel" anymore of what weight certain "u iva mhux kemm taqta l'hawn u twahhal l'hemm" suggestions carry with them pale 

    Good luck either 1 or 4 cheers 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:18 pm

    yes you are right there some things are easier said than done. Imbghad mur ara jekk xi haga ma tigix ezatt. Kemm jeqred a jqabbel ma ritratti. I will wait it out but will not try the impossible either. How's Weymar coming along?

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:33 pm

    bcauchi wrote:yes you are right there some things are easier said than done.  Imbghad mur ara jekk xi haga ma tigix ezatt.  Kemm jeqred a jqabbel ma ritratti.  I will wait it out but will not try the impossible either.  How's Weymar coming along?
    Hallini....I forgot to add 2 button holes on the left lower side Sad 

    Had to drill, fill with putty & make the incision with the tip of the blade....now waiting till 13:00 for the baking Suspect 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:35 pm

    X panic u stress man!! Keep cool and enjoy the downpour whilst it lasts!

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:38 am

    Some progress pics. The plane is still missing its number, kill tally on the rudder and of course the squadron insignia on the nose. Once again for some strange reason, the colours are looking darker than they are and i have lightened them up too.
















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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  in nannu pec on Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:15 pm

    awesome work as always Brian...
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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  iCocker on Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:28 pm

    Ghandek rivet niqes Brian fuq panel A location Z ... nitcajta ta ... tal-genn mate! Prosit!

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:19 pm

    Coming realy nice Brian ........ about the 79 , in some pic's looks dark and in other looks good maybe the photos.. did you used the fs 30118 base for the Tan ,may be thats the problem because that is more brown ..........Question 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:26 pm

    Nice! Nice! Veru sabieh! I don't want ti miss seeing this at the club!!

    Keep it up brian......... pity the rain is forecasted to stop!

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:27 pm

    Brian about the Red one you sad ... because I can't wait till wed .... it's totaly different....


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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:46 pm

    Marco that is only an artist's impression. You have the real photo and the scheme is just like red 4 only with red 1 and the tally on the tail. Even that is done wrongly in the profile. There is a kill marking denoting one of the two small ships the pilot sank. So don;t bother with that.

    Check out the photos i sent you. the one with the pilot getting out of the cockpit is red 4 and the pilot is Paul Becker. The other two are red 1 and the pilot leading against it is Hans-Arnold 'Fiffi' Stahlschmidt. Note that the camo is very similar but the plane is different. Red 1 seems to have been kept much cleaner. There is less exhaust staining and even the sides are cleaner. The demarcation between the blue and brown is also slightly higher in red 4. You can judge by looking at the area of the yellow/white triangle on the side of the fuselage.

    Over to you!

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:50 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Marco that is only an artist's impression. You have the real photo and the scheme is just like red 4 only with red 1 and the tally on the tail.  Even that is done wrongly in the profile.  There is a kill marking denoting one of the two small ships the pilot sank.  So don;t bother with that.

    Check out the photos i sent you. the one with the pilot getting out of the cockpit is red 4 and the pilot is Paul Becker.  The other two are red 1 and the pilot leading against it is Hans-Arnold 'Fiffi' Stahlschmidt.  Note that the camo is very similar but the plane is different. Red 1 seems to have been kept much cleaner.  There is less exhaust staining and even the sides are cleaner. The demarcation between the blue and brown is also slightly higher in red 4.  You can judge by looking at the area of the yellow/white triangle on the side of the fuselage.

    Over to you!
    Ok then till now no full photo found..........scratch 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:49 pm

    Very impressive painting job Brian...

    It looks so real.... cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:56 pm

    A preview of the project setup. There is more to go. The kubel is now complete and i have started working on the figures. hope you like it.












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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Ray on Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:12 pm

    Looking very good Brian Twisted Evil cheers I love you 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  slingshot392 on Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:20 am

    The car looks really good, nice and dirty and with some dings they would always get in use. I didn't realize the tread on their tires (at least for that vehicle) was the same as on their aircraft tires?

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:01 am

    looks real Brian .....but I would prefer see them real at the club , instead of the photos.......Welldone.....cheers 

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  bcauchi on Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:54 am

    Thanks everyone for the comments.

    Brad, those are desert tyres. The kubelwagens were equipped with different kinds of tyres according to where they were used. The ones used in the desert had those type of tyres.

    Marco, you will see it at the club when the whole project is done. I just posted some pics so that you can see what is going on. Hope you like the 109. I am very happy with it. The ship kill marking is hand painted on the rudder.

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    Re: Bf109 F4 Trop.

    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:05 pm

    Superb work as always Brian!

    Personally I would prefer the red on letter 1, a litlle bit weathered more, It looks so fresh compared to the rest of the colors on the plane
    Dont forget to place the glass on the Vehicle's mirror.

    I can't wait for the final act!!! cheers cheers cheers 

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