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    Saw this on FB!!!

    Post  Ray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:00 pm

    Saw this on FB by Per Olav Lund who might be in Telford pale

    A 1/32 scale, plane Wingnut Wings Hansa B. 29 (which I believe is out of production Suspect ) & it will include 2 figures pale pale 







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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:29 pm

    affraid ..amazing...

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    Post  bcauchi on Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:57 pm

    What an awesome diorama, i love the foamy water effect it is truly impressive and i think that he got the colour of the waves spot on, what a brilliant piece, it is going to take something really good to beat that.

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    Post  Wayne on Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:04 pm

    Speechless....Shocked 


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    Post  Ray on Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:05 am

    The man has Talent & B*[[$ IMHO Twisted Evil

    If Marco would chime in, he would know if the guy competes at Telford or not. Or better still, Ivan might know if he is a Euromilitaire only guy or not. If my memory serves me right (which these days It Does Not I'm afraid) he is an IPMS guy...I can always check his FB as he's a "FB Friend" Twisted Evil

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    Post  Wayne on Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:41 am

    I think that we (the aircraft section) should really start thinking out of the box in our projects. This is just in a league of its own.

    I know that most would be reluctant to take a kit bought with hard earned cash and turn it into an artistic pile of scrap, but we have to face the fact that:

    • accidents do happen

    • aircraft get neglected if they outlive their usefulness

    • eventually every bird get's it (even if eventually restored and placed in a museum)


    Furthermore, I think we all have kits that have outlived their usefulness due to inaccuracies, missing parts, failed/abandoned projects etc that could be turned into an artistic scene.

    There are lots of reference pics showing aircraft in a painfully sorry state, but I think we just choose to ignore them.

    Robert tried this with a scene of an aircraft underwater and I think it turned out pretty well, so Kudos to him.


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    Post  iCocker on Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:00 pm

    No guys relax, Per Olav is not a person normally that goes to Telford from what I know, he is a dioramist and very talented, he was at Euro this year ... from what I fished out what is coming to Telford is that split Salamander half naked half painted ... yes I agree start thinking of different projects that amazes the viewwers, nowadays many countries are producing very good models so yes something different is always a good hit hux!

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    Post  iCocker on Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:09 pm

    Wayne wrote:I think that we (the aircraft section) should really start thinking out of the box in our projects.  This is just in a league of its own.

    I know that most would be reluctant to take a kit bought with hard earned cash and turn it into an artistic pile of scrap, but we have to face the fact that:


    • accidents do happen


    • aircraft get neglected if they outlive their usefulness


    • eventually every bird get's it (even if eventually restored and placed in a museum)


    Furthermore, I think we all have kits that have outlived their usefulness due to inaccuracies, missing parts, failed/abandoned projects etc that could be turned into an artistic scene.

    There are lots of reference pics showing aircraft in a painfully sorry state, but I think we just choose to ignore them.

    Robert tried this with a scene of an aircraft underwater and I think it turned out pretty well, so Kudos to him.
    Wayne, Per Olav has been doing this project about 3 years ago, he had to stop due to other commitments he had. When doing KO models rest assured no one choose a 'bad' kit or because a work went bad so do it crashed down, when doing a KO one has a bigger challenge and has to plan things much more ... it is not something you do because you have missing parts or a model turned bad ... it is a complex projects and people with guts manage to make it right ... you have to built a broken damaged model, the broken and weathered parts have to be planned well, you need to make the material look proper, colours etc etc ... it is no easy task!

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    Post  Ray on Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:19 am

    iCocker wrote:
    Wayne wrote:I think that we (the aircraft section) should really start thinking out of the box in our projects.  This is just in a league of its own.

    I know that most would be reluctant to take a kit bought with hard earned cash and turn it into an artistic pile of scrap, but we have to face the fact that:


    • accidents do happen





    • aircraft get neglected if they outlive their usefulness





    • eventually every bird get's it (even if eventually restored and placed in a museum)





    Furthermore, I think we all have kits that have outlived their usefulness due to inaccuracies, missing parts, failed/abandoned projects etc that could be turned into an artistic scene.

    There are lots of reference pics showing aircraft in a painfully sorry state, but I think we just choose to ignore them.

    Robert tried this with a scene of an aircraft underwater and I think it turned out pretty well, so Kudos to him.
    Wayne, Per Olav has been doing this project about 3 years ago, he had to stop due to other commitments he had. When doing KO models rest assured no one choose a 'bad' kit or because a work went bad so do it crashed down, when doing a KO one has a bigger challenge and has to plan things much more ... it is not something you do because you have missing parts or a model turned bad ... it is a complex projects and people with guts manage to make it right ... you have to built a broken damaged model, the broken and weathered parts have to be planned well, you need to make the material look proper, colours etc etc ... it is no easy task!
    BRAVISSIMU Wayne for your POSITIVE THINKING & MAYBE You INSTIGATE the STUBBORN HEADS of our SSM Wing Nuts (something I've been trying to do for a while now by "silently" post pics of this sort like that heavily weathered Zero) in venturing out of the box Twisted Evil

    Nice one Ivan for the "unfolding" of Wayne's PLEA for REFORM Twisted Evil

    Some of You "Old School" Wing Nuts need BEHEADING BADLY lol! lol! lol! 

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    Post  Wayne on Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:45 am

    iCocker wrote:
    Wayne wrote:I think that we (the aircraft section) should really start thinking out of the box in our projects.  This is just in a league of its own.

    I know that most would be reluctant to take a kit bought with hard earned cash and turn it into an artistic pile of scrap, but we have to face the fact that:


    • accidents do happen



    • aircraft get neglected if they outlive their usefulness



    • eventually every bird get's it (even if eventually restored and placed in a museum)



    Furthermore, I think we all have kits that have outlived their usefulness due to inaccuracies, missing parts, failed/abandoned projects etc that could be turned into an artistic scene.

    There are lots of reference pics showing aircraft in a painfully sorry state, but I think we just choose to ignore them.

    Robert tried this with a scene of an aircraft underwater and I think it turned out pretty well, so Kudos to him.
    Wayne, Per Olav has been doing this project about 3 years ago, he had to stop due to other commitments he had. When doing KO models rest assured no one choose a 'bad' kit or because a work went bad so do it crashed down, when doing a KO one has a bigger challenge and has to plan things much more ... it is not something you do because you have missing parts or a model turned bad ... it is a complex projects and people with guts manage to make it right ... you have to built a broken damaged model, the broken and weathered parts have to be planned well, you need to make the material look proper, colours etc etc ... it is no easy task!

    Ivan, there is no doubt in my mind that something like this takes a lot of planning and skill. I agree 100% with your view. What I meant was that someone might find it easier to 'sacrifice' or 'adapt' (for lack of a better word) an older kit into their first derilict project. My reasoning was "Hey, I kind of like the idea of depicting a KO'd aircraft but I'm not 100% sure yet. I have this old kit which I'm probably never gonna build anyway, lemme try my hand at it and see how it goes." It will probably not be a show stopper, but in the learning process a perfectly good kit was not 'ruined' so to speak.

    Think about a certain joint project you're doing Wink the kit isn't exactly brand spanking new but it's definitely suitable.


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    Post  iCocker on Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:03 pm

    There is always the first try, to be honest Per Olav is a tank guy so like me we enjoy to see downed birds, but not always it is wise to use old kits, in our project we used the old for trial only and realised it is better using the new as detail is much better etc ... but again depends the project, hux ... the old can be punishing compared to the modern age models but I agree wing nuts are a bit rigid and afraid to sacrifice a bird to such an extend, you idolise too much ... you have to let go and make such a model, still it is atractive if not more! Wink


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    Post  Ray on Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:03 pm

    iCocker wrote:There is always the first try, to be honest Per Olav is a tank guy so like me we enjoy to see downed birds, but not always it is wise to use old kits, in our project we used the old for trial only and realised it is better using the new as detail is much better etc ... but again depends the project, hux ... the old can be punishing compared to the modern age models but I agree wing nuts are a bit rigid and afraid to sacrifice a bird to such an extend, you idolise too much ... you have to let go and make such a model, still it is atractive if not more! Wink


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    They (Wing Nuts) ALL DO Twisted Evil .....that is IDOLISE Twisted Evil ....and it is ALL coming from "HIM" the ONE & ONLY  Suspect 

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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:13 pm

    Mind you ta all this fuss ............ these modelers or artist called them what you want,, are artist they studied ART..or what so ever..they studied colors , pigment etc... .... So they have a good backround of what is color and so on ,, they are brave talented .. but you can't compare a modeler who ones bought a model , or receive a birthday present and start building models ... even if you practice , you never gain the same result...........


    Just my 2c.... enjoy building models..... leave the compt to the top brass.........cheers 

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    Post  iCocker on Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:44 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Mind you ta all this fuss ............ these modelers or artist called them what you want,, are artist they studied ART..or what so ever..they studied colors , pigment etc... .... So they have a good backround of what is color and so on ,, they are brave talented .. but you can't compare a modeler who ones bought a model , or receive a birthday  present and start building models ... even if you practice , you never gain the same result...........


    Just my 2c.... enjoy building models..... leave the compt to the top brass.........cheers 
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    Re: Saw this on FB!!!

    Post  J.Fenech on Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:46 pm

    Ray wrote:
    iCocker wrote:There is always the first try, to be honest Per Olav is a tank guy so like me we enjoy to see downed birds, but not always it is wise to use old kits, in our project we used the old for trial only and realised it is better using the new as detail is much better etc ... but again depends the project, hux ... the old can be punishing compared to the modern age models but I agree wing nuts are a bit rigid and afraid to sacrifice a bird to such an extend, you idolise too much ... you have to let go and make such a model, still it is atractive if not more! Wink


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    The time for some BEHEADINGS pale Shocked What a Face  IS UPON US  lol! lol! lol!  
    what about traitors, what shall we do!Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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    Post  J.Fenech on Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:52 pm

    Amazing work is being done here, but I am afraid that you posted the article under the wrong section - it should have been posted in the diorama section.

    Secondly, what is making it stand out is not the just the airplane but the dramatic composition of the entire set.

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    Post  Ray on Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:16 pm

    J.Fenech wrote:Amazing work is being done here, but I am afraid that you posted the article under the wrong section - it should have been posted in the diorama section.

    Secondly, what is making it stand out is not the just the airplane but the dramatic composition of the entire set.
    You may be right JF, but I wanted to "INSTIGATE" some awareness in You Wing Nuts that planes need not NECESSARY be IDOLISED Evil or Very Mad 

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    Post  Ray on Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:17 pm

    J.Fenech wrote:
    Ray wrote:
    iCocker wrote:There is always the first try, to be honest Per Olav is a tank guy so like me we enjoy to see downed birds, but not always it is wise to use old kits, in our project we used the old for trial only and realised it is better using the new as detail is much better etc ... but again depends the project, hux ... the old can be punishing compared to the modern age models but I agree wing nuts are a bit rigid and afraid to sacrifice a bird to such an extend, you idolise too much ... you have to let go and make such a model, still it is atractive if not more! Wink


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    I AGREE 101% especially the word IDOLISE cheers cheers cheers 

    They (Wing Nuts) ALL DO Twisted Evil .....that is IDOLISE Twisted Evil ....and it is ALL coming from "HIM" the ONE & ONLY  Suspect 

    The time for some BEHEADINGS pale Shocked What a Face  IS UPON US  lol! lol! lol!  
    what about traitors, what shall we do!Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
    You mean TRAITORS WHO TURNED PHOTOGRAPHERS I Hope Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 

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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:09 pm

    No Ray, he is refering for those.. who one's they are with you..and at the end of the day they turn agains't you... lol! 

    ...I'm still on the wings side ..and that I will gone be till the last breath........lol! 

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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:16 pm

    Ivan ma nafx xandu xjaqsam il 109 fija din..... chips u xnaf semmejt , pero najdlek inutli li tisboh sabih u tigbed l gfhajn tal jugdes biex tiehu xi midalja ..jekk is suggett ma jkunx auhtentiku u xebgha zbalji jew fil version ..bla sugu .. u nafx xjien najd ghax xbajd nara mudelli b hafna zbalji ..laqwa li mizbuh li jigbed l ghajn.............. u iz zebgha taghna ukoll.........cheers 

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    Post  Ray on Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:23 pm

    skyhigh wrote:No Ray, he is refering for those.. who one's they are with you..and at the end of the day they turn agains't you... lol! 

    ...I'm still on the wings side ..and that I will gone  be till the last  breath........lol! 
    U mur saqqi l-hass tal-Marsa FOTOGRAFU TRADITUR KOLLOK lol! lol! lol! 

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    Post  Ray on Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:27 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Ivan ma nafx xandu xjaqsam il 109 fija din..... chips u xnaf semmejt , pero najdlek inutli li tisboh sabih u tigbed l gfhajn tal jugdes biex tiehu xi midalja ..jekk is suggett ma jkunx auhtentiku u xebgha zbalji jew fil version ..bla sugu .. u nafx xjien najd ghax xbajd nara mudelli b hafna zbalji ..laqwa li mizbuh li jigbed l ghajn.............. u iz zebgha taghna ukoll.........cheers 
    Ippruvajt infittex biex insib ic-chips li semmejt li semma Ivan u ma sibtha mkien Suspect 

    Nerga ntennilek minn qalbi....Mur saqqi l-hass tal-Marsa ja TRADITUR FOTOGRAFU BISS BISS BISS lol! lol! lol! 

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    Post  iCocker on Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:06 pm

    Serrah mohhok bniedem bhal Per Olav m'ghandux bzonn jigbed l-ghajn tal-judges, dan bniedem krejativ hafna li johlom jaghmel ... hemm differenza, dan ma jibniex ghal midalji, din l-istorja xbajtu isemmghu u qed taqu fin-nasba tal-marketing ta' min jeqred u jinteresah affarijiet ohra LOL ... nahseb qed tidhol wisq f'kompetizjoni tal-fotografija dawn l-affarijiet hemm isiru LOL


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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:41 pm

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    Post  Ray on Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:15 am

    iCocker wrote:Serrah mohhok bniedem bhal Per Olav m'ghandux bzonn jigbed l-ghajn tal-judges, dan bniedem krejativ hafna li johlom jaghmel ... hemm differenza, dan ma jibniex ghal midalji, din l-istorja xbajtu isemmghu u qed taqu fin-nasba tal-marketing ta' min jeqred u jinteresah affarijiet ohra LOL ... nahseb qed tidhol wisq f'kompetizjoni tal-fotografija dawn l-affarijiet hemm isiru LOL

    Amen cheers

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