1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

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    1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:58 pm

    I started this!

    QUESTION: I'll probably be going for this scheme...............



    ..... to achieve that streaking effect would it be a good idea to paint a Buff colour and than produce the streaking effect with a flat brush and Burnt Umber or olive green oil paint??????

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:59 pm

    Yes that's the process......

    http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/05/01/fokker-dr-i-streaky-camouflage/

    http://hosted.wargamer.com/CloseCombatFuture/rosssmodels/Streaky-tutorial.pdf

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Ray on Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:47 am

    That should be how it is done  Twisted Evil 

    However I'm not sure re olive green  Suspect 

    I would ask Joseph re this  Evil or Very Mad 

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:33 am

    skyhigh wrote:Yes that's the process......

    http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/2008/05/01/fokker-dr-i-streaky-camouflage/

    http://hosted.wargamer.com/CloseCombatFuture/rosssmodels/Streaky-tutorial.pdf

    Thanks Marco!..... was helpful!

    @Ray... I still have to research the colours somewhat......... still, if joseph can lend a hand it would be great.

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  iCocker on Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:11 am

    Most books give it as Olive Green, Noel notice that it was an allover scheme and red was painted over it, so was a bit see through ... in areas red might look streaked [captured well in the 3D image/notice also the oil stains]! Richtofen had two fokkers with this scheme, both numbered different and one if not mistaken went to his brother and changed the tail to yellow.

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:38 am

    iCocker wrote:Most books give it as Olive Green, Noel notice that it was an allover scheme and red was painted over it, so was a bit see through ... in areas red might look streaked [captured well in the 3D image/notice also the oil stains]! Richtofen had two fokkers with this scheme, both numbered different and one if not mistaken went to his brother and changed the tail to yellow.

    I'll be doing Lothar's plane next (his brother) who changed his plane to yellow but over the olive green not over red.



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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:40 am

    Ivan...Question:

    If I use oils for the olive green effect , let it dry well ...... will I be able to paint with acrylic over it? Will it adhere?

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:15 am

    May be this will help....



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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:23 am

    And a good ref for Richthofen and Lothar Fokker's scheme thanks to eduard inst..........





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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  iCocker on Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:30 am

    Noel Petroni wrote:Ivan...Question:

    If I use oils for the olive green effect , let it dry well ...... will I be able to paint with acrylic over it? Will it adhere?

    I think that is the best option it is like applying streaking effects over AFVs ... W&N has an Olive Green colour perfect for this ...

    Check referances as they had a way how streaks were applied especially on the wings all diagonal and to one side. Streaks were done at the Fokker's factory, colour schemes most field applied. Lothar's first Trip was 'burrowed' from Manfred I read somwhere, not sure about that but notice that his yellow covers more area but cowling is still red.


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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  iCocker on Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:32 am

    Marco that is a great image, especially if original fabric, notice how dark the skyblue has become when applied over already doped fabric, probably they made more then one pass ... sometimes we forget the undercoat colour and how colour behave on that ... nice find thanks buddy!

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:45 am

    iCocker wrote:Marco that is a great image, especially if original fabric, notice how dark the skyblue has become when applied over already doped fabric, probably they made more then one pass ... sometimes we forget the undercoat colour and how colour behave on that ... nice find thanks buddy!

    Yes Marco... good find!

    It seems that colour on fabric can't be represented as a solid colour ... like for example painted on metal. I believe that one has to spray blotches of light and darker tiny areas of the colour to achieve a more realistic effect.

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  iCocker on Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:59 pm

    I would personally paint as the original, all fabric and doped, then apply thin glazes of the solid colour ... it needs to be translucent to get the underlay 'showing'. It is a good experiment but will on a 1/72 be seen? Nahseb qed nifisaw ...LOL ... but then that is the fun for me trying to experiment and hopefully achieving it, doing a solid colour colour every Joe Blog can do it hux ...

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    Re: 1/72 Revell Fokker DR 1

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:31 pm

    this is an example on a beautiful finished ,1/28 scale Revell Fokker ..model build from our late but not missed Ray Borg R.I.P. very good effect of the streaks.......


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