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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:09 am

    Hi AdriaN. The scale is rather Big for such a heavy drybrush. I wish for less and paying little more attention on the panels and switches.

    1/12 is a "trap scale". You have to fight with the Real one. (that's the main problem with large scales 1/24 and more). You have no chance to avoid the comparison with the real thing. Otherwise Large scales seem toys. Human eye can "lock on" everywhere.

    I like your painting job so far, and it looks very promising!

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  Ray on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:45 am

    Alex Kontiveis wrote:Hi AdriaN. The scale is rather Big for such a heavy drybrush. I wish for less and paying little more attention on the panels and switches.

    1/12 is a "trap scale". You have to fight with the Real one. (that's the main problem with large scales 1/24 and more). You have no chance to avoid the comparison with the real thing. Otherwise Large scales seem toys. Human eye can "lock on" everywhere.

    I like your painting job so far, and it looks very promising!

    Very valid point Alex, but again Adrian is a newbie, a very promising one that is, but I don't think that at this point he knows otherwise. I also think that at that scale, drybrushing per se is out of the question or at least he needs to apply some washes to tone everything down. I think that the AFV Nuts' techniques would be more then suitable here Twisted Evil

    However, a wash with the basic colour to blend and tone the harsh dry brushing would suffice, so Adrian it would not require any techniques which you have not matered yet, so go for it if I were you Cool

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  AdriaN on Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:24 pm

    YOu are both right. i think it went on too heavy on the side panels and seat frame. Ive been drybrushing for only about 3 years and usually do it on small things likes 1:48/72 seats, pilots, cockpit. But never on such a big one. so i got carried away (us usual) Laughing

    Do you mean a wash with the base colour? like a black wash on the black over dry brushed seat frame? Question
    i need a few 'art' lessons in shades, tones and highlighting and so on.. Idea Rolling Eyes

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  Ray on Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:51 pm

    AdriaN wrote:YOu are both right. i think it went on too heavy on the side panels and seat frame. Ive been drybrushing for only about 3 years and usually do it on small things likes 1:48/72 seats, pilots, cockpit. But never on such a big one. so i got carried away (us usual) Laughing

    Do you mean a wash with the base colour? like a black wash on the black over dry brushed seat frame? Question
    i need a few 'art' lessons in shades, tones and highlighting and so on.. Idea Rolling Eyes

    Yes Adrian that is exactly what I meant.........with the appropriate wash/glaze (it is the same) of the underlying colour......you can also use a black wash for example on a grey dry brushed surface.......it will tone down, blend and merge the "sharp/harsh edges/brush strokes" and enhance/harmonize the final appearance of your piece.

    Hope this helps Cool

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:54 pm

    Adrian, no need to panic. Your work is still very nice and to a high standard. You also need to bear in mind that most of the drybrushing will be greatly toned down when you finally seal in all your work with a coat of matt varnish or whatever else you care to use. That will subdue the silver of the drybrushing. In the meantime i susggest you apply some controlled washes using oils and a thin bruah to lay out the wash where you realy want it. You can really add a lot of detail that way.

    I think you need to use less drybruah and more fading effect of paint. Ex. where areas are handled all the time.

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:16 pm

    Adrian next wed noel is going to make a demostration and show some tech..on the subject

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    Post  Ray on Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:02 am

    skyhigh wrote:Adrian next wed noel is going to make a demostration and show some tech..on the subject

    Are you sure Marco? It was the Wed before if I'm not mistaken and you've mixed the dates you remember at Club during the SNACK we ate on Wed lol!

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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:48 am

    OK OK..... this is what I was talking about , Next Wed the 3rd March ..Ray.......


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    WORKSHOP - Weathering German & Sherman Tank!
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    We are going to demonstrate how to apply washes with oils and pigments on a German Panzer Grey Tank and a Sherman Oilve Drab Tank.

    You can bring your model along and try try it out with our help!
    Even if you do not get the model with you, it's a good idea to get your brushes and tools and take opinion if they are the right ones you are using.

    The method we are going to show is the current application that is being used at the moment.

    IMPORTANT: Kindly make a post and confirm if you are attending.

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    Post  William on Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:00 am

    Very nice Adrian!

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  slingshot392 on Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:49 am

    Nice work on the cockpit so far, I can see I have a long way to learn on the drybrushing.

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  AdriaN on Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:39 pm

    'Spaggetti' Seat Belt frustration


    This is what the seatbelts are supposed to look like out of the box. Pretty ugly and not very precise in colour and positioning.


    I found a guys build. Im trying to replicate his seat belts but still very confusing.


    A pic of the real seat. even more confusing



    i.e- i am very stuck Crying or Very sad

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    Ok then may be this will help........

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:33 pm


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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:34 pm


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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

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    I hope all this will satisfy you....... cheers

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  Ray on Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:14 pm

    You call that ENOUGH Evil or Very Mad?

    I honestly don't think that there is any other forum in this World as generally informative on ALL fields of scale modelling as ours, MAINLY THANKS to YOU Twisted Evil

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:59 pm

    oh come on Ray don't exaggerated affraid ...tajjeb ktibta daqs khemm hi twila lol! lol! ...ta ...Only that we are the best of the best modeling forum in town ...God bless SSM..... cheers

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:05 pm

    By the way I forgot to include the colours....




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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  AdriaN on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:11 pm

    Marco you are too kind! Very Happy cheers
    Time to start studying the photos!

    Are the colours in FS?

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    Re: F-104G Cockpit, 1:12 Italeri

    Post  skyhigh on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:18 pm

    Yes in Fs numbers...

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