FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  bcauchi on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:11 pm

    Ray, that is good news, i thought i was still way behind the times but i never realised that Harvey painted in oils, his work is truly amazing. i love his updates, They are so way out. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Post  bcauchi on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:13 pm

    Sorry about that, it is Hardy and not Harvey. I better own up before you realise my mistake as you always do! Apologies to Hardy too.

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    Post  Ray on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:32 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Sorry about that, it is Hardy and not Harvey. I better own up before you realise my mistake as you always do! Apologies to Hardy too.

    I can see that you're nearing the GOLDEN Status lol!

    Push, Push, Push lol!

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    Post  bcauchi on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:35 pm

    it is no use now, the best in show is what counts and there is only one BEST In SHOW!!

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    Post  jojjemannen on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:38 pm

    bcauchi wrote:it is no use now, the best in show is what counts and there is only one BEST In SHOW!!

    And the one's that can remove him, the Judges (Admins)! Fear us!

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    Post  Ray on Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:39 pm

    jojjemannen wrote:
    bcauchi wrote:it is no use now, the best in show is what counts and there is only one BEST In SHOW!!

    And the one's that can remove him, the Judges (Admins)! Fear us!

    Smile

    /Joseph

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  iCocker on Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:47 pm

    Alex,

    Have a look at this Italian Colonial Totem Column [seems common in Libya] would really add a historical referance to your cool subject!

    http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33776


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    Post  bcauchi on Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:28 pm

    Something like that would really look cool. i would go for it, very unusual too.

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    Post  alexbb on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:01 pm

    iCocker wrote:Alex,

    Have a look at this Italian Colonial Totem Column [seems common in Libya] would really add a historical referance to your cool subject!

    http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33776


    Ivan

    it would make a great setting but unfortunately is not usable with the arsenale. these are fascist era "pietre miliare" OR mile stones and where erected all over italian controlled territories in the fashion of old roman imperial/republican milestones. but i do have a lancia armoured car my only problem is i wanted to depict it in the colourful spanish civil war scheme

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    Post  Ray on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:43 pm

    iCocker wrote:Alex,

    Have a look at this Italian Colonial Totem Column [seems common in Libya] would really add a historical referance to your cool subject!

    http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33776


    Ivan

    Cool figure, cool uniform ala Italiana and Immortal painting as always from Danilo Twisted Evil

    Alex, would the figure fit with your proposed Lancia Armoured car? If yes, I'm gonna buy the fig cheers

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    Post  alexbb on Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:46 pm

    Ray wrote:
    iCocker wrote:Alex,

    Have a look at this Italian Colonial Totem Column [seems common in Libya] would really add a historical referance to your cool subject!

    http://www.planetfigure.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33776


    Ivan

    Cool figure, cool uniform ala Italiana and Immortal painting as always from Danilo Twisted Evil

    Alex, would the figure fit with your proposed Lancia Armoured car? If yes, I'm gonna buy the fig cheers

    have to check if it was used for colonial duties circa 1930/36

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  iCocker on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:29 pm

    NB that figure is 54mm, probably 60/65mm so might be very tall for a 1/35 car?

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    Post  alexbb on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:34 pm

    iCocker wrote:NB that figure is 54mm, probably 60/65mm so might be very tall for a 1/35 car?
    i know ivan but the lancia izm is a big one so it would counter it a bit but still.
    by the way will soon be receiving a sample from miniarm i think, of their 1/35 russian ww1 figures

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    Post  Ray on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:03 pm

    alex wrote:
    iCocker wrote:NB that figure is 54mm, probably 60/65mm so might be very tall for a 1/35 car?
    i know ivan but the lancia izm is a big one so it would counter it a bit but still.
    by the way will soon be receiving a sample from miniarm i think, of their 1/35 russian ww1 figures

    Nice one re Lancia armoured car cheers

    Also Rusian figures sound interesting Twisted Evil


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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  alexbb on Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:20 pm

    just have to add searchlight lens and its done.












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    Post  Ray on Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:47 pm

    So ADD that searchlight lens, what are you waiting for Laughing

    Great work and very realistic weathering as usual!! Very unusual subject at least to non AFV Nuts like me Twisted Evil

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:24 am

    Cool Alex, that is one beautifully weathered cool strange looking machine.

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    Post  iCocker on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:19 am

    Lovely, really came nice mate, love those countless rivets, I pity the mastermaker for placing them in line : )

    By the way MM special is out, Mario Eens made a must have article on his last tiny Pz1, teh aproach and subtle weathering mainly done by paintbrush is inspiring though time consuiming, but the result is outstanding! I had the cahnce to hold the gem in my hand and have to say it is a benchmark in afv painting ...

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    Post  Ray on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:29 am

    Yes re the MilMod Special I got it last Thur as I'm a subscriber Laughing

    Great article by Mario Eens by all means Laughing

    What I enjoyed reading most is the use of Oils and that bit of "odd" drybrushing here and there despite the "new school" of pigments Laughing

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    Post  Dottore on Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:47 am

    My kind of weathering job...did you use any pigments at all on the tank? Or just spray and oils?

    Maybe we can have a closer look at the club next Wed???

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  iCocker on Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:33 pm

    Ray wrote:Yes re the MilMod Special I got it last Thur as I'm a subscriber Laughing

    Great article by Mario Eens by all means Laughing

    What I enjoyed reading most is the use of Oils and that bit of "odd" drybrushing here and there despite the "new school" of pigments Laughing

    I had a long chat with Mario last Euro, yep he still use drybrush but notice that he use it as a weathering tool, not the old way to highlight. I agree that drybrush is a very good usable tool but has it's specific target. Regarding pigments, he comes from the Belgian school [they are realistic finishers] and they are not that keen with pigments [apart that it is a Spanish school tool], and I understand why. Mario loves to have his weathering undercontrol, with pigments that is though you cannot predict the outcome till it dries, so he prefers the hard way and paint his weathering. That is a more controlable way but time consuming. What affacinates me is that he manage using oils for weathering and acheive a dead mat without using varnishes. We have to agree he is a master of the brush, and his articles are must have to any who love subtle weathering, being aircraft, figure or AFV. IMO

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    Re: FIAT ARSENALE 1912 (CRIEL 1/35)

    Post  alexbb on Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:45 pm

    dont get me wrong im not mario ens im just trying to copy his technique which i have always admired above everybody elses. the thing with mario ens is that he does not have a trademark technique or method, he adapts and improvises according to the need of the moment and that is why i love his work. when neccesary he uses a combination of "old school" and modern school to produce, what in my humble opinion are simply stunning models yet realistic unlike some others out there who use the model as a canvas for their surreal art.

    as for pigments like mr ens i use them sparingly prefering to work with oils and fine grade pastels always with a base of naples yellow and burnt umber. on the model i used them solely on the chassis and some dusting on lower hull

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    Post  alexbb on Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:48 pm

    iCocker wrote:
    Ray wrote:Yes re the MilMod Special I got it last Thur as I'm a subscriber Laughing

    Great article by Mario Eens by all means Laughing

    What I enjoyed reading most is the use of Oils and that bit of "odd" drybrushing here and there despite the "new school" of pigments Laughing

    I had a long chat with Mario last Euro, yep he still use drybrush but notice that he use it as a weathering tool, not the old way to highlight. I agree that drybrush is a very good usable tool but has it's specific target. Regarding pigments, he comes from the Belgian school [they are realistic finishers] and they are not that keen with pigments [apart that it is a Spanish school tool], and I understand why. Mario loves to have his weathering undercontrol, with pigments that is though you cannot predict the outcome till it dries, so he prefers the hard way and paint his weathering. That is a more controlable way but time consuming. What affacinates me is that he manage using oils for weathering and acheive a dead mat without using varnishes. We have to agree he is a master of the brush, and his articles are must have to any who love subtle weathering, being aircraft, figure or AFV. IMO

    Ivan
    i also spoke to mario some time ago and he told me to always include a good quality naples yellow base to any weathering mix. he explained that the chalk in naples yellow absorbs the linseed oil in the paint thus creating a opaque finnish

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    Post  alexbb on Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:51 pm

    Dottore wrote:My kind of weathering job...did you use any pigments at all on the tank? Or just spray and oils?

    Maybe we can have a closer look at the club next Wed???

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    Post  Dottore on Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:54 pm

    And counting to bring something of my own finally!

    Hope to see you AFV nuts...

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