Werner Voss in 1:48scale

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Fri May 14, 2010 12:30 pm

    ray for the tent use tissue used by auto panel beaters,it is completetly devoid of any deseigns or superimposed texture but has a slight rough grain to it.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Fri May 21, 2010 11:37 pm

    I looked everywhere for the right type of tissue, but haven't found a non-textured piece yet Crying or Very sad So I sanded the milliput tent down to almost a translucent gauge Cool I also positioned it at a bigger angle in order to be able to turn Werner facing the viewer.
    If I won't find an appropriate piece of tissue I will have to settle on this one, because time is pressing and I want to start painting Mad

    Alex you're my last resort Sad


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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Fri May 21, 2010 11:52 pm

    Much better angle mate Twisted Evil

    Come on start splashing some paint soon Cool

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Joseph on Sat May 22, 2010 7:11 am

    Looking good, ta' vera especially the prop Smile , what I suggest for the prop is that you remove the front securing plate (the one with the centre bolt), because it is depicting the prop as if fixed to the engine.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Sat May 22, 2010 7:43 am

    Joseph wrote:Looking good, ta' vera especially the prop Smile , what I suggest for the prop is that you remove the front securing plate (the one with the centre bolt), because it is depicting the prop as if fixed to the engine.

    I'm glad you like it more now Smile I'm very tempted to leave the milliput tent as is and start painting. The seams on the canvas will be done in paint.

    Yes of course the prop needs some work on it, this is only a mock setup.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu May 27, 2010 2:24 pm

    After yesterday's discussion at the club together with Joseph's and DaveM's photos, I've decided to use the wooden hangar as backdrop. Tonight I hope to start putting on some paint on my brushes...at last! Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  iCocker on Thu May 27, 2010 2:27 pm

    About time you decided ... take it easy! : )


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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Thu May 27, 2010 3:32 pm

    iCocker wrote:About time you decided ... take it easy! : )

    Have been tempted to say it for quite a while lol!

    Have been tempted to say it for quite a while lol!

    Have been tempted to say it for quite a while lol!

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu May 27, 2010 7:54 pm

    Embarassed Embarassed

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Thu May 27, 2010 10:30 pm

    RayCaruana wrote:Embarassed Embarassed


    dak li ghandek tisthi wisq. come on start painting
    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  bcauchi on Fri May 28, 2010 7:51 am

    I still prefer the tent but i wasn't there during the discussion so i suppose you had a good reason to do it that way.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Fri May 28, 2010 8:04 am

    bcauchi wrote:I still prefer the tent but i wasn't there during the discussion so i suppose you had a good reason to do it that way.

    Yes Brian there were a number of factors which made me settle on the wooden hanger, the main being that a tent is maybe more appropriate for a boxed diorama then a based vignette due to the effect of light on the canvas or linen.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  bcauchi on Fri May 28, 2010 8:15 am

    It is going to be great anyway but i think that the tent and rough flooring would be nicer overall. The effect is still thare and the main components of the set up are the same, engine, prop figure and tools. Good, let us see some paint now, we have been hyped up for a long time on this one. Time to see some fruit. By the way i have finally started painting so there should be an update on my thread on Sunday.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Sun May 30, 2010 11:26 pm

    I took advantage of today's weather and painted the repair hangar's wooden floor, using the technique found here . It is done using artist oils, to which I added 50% matt medium. Comments are most welcome before I start the walls Neutral


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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Mon May 31, 2010 12:55 am

    Looks good to me mate, but will wait for the "weathering champions" to chime in I presume Twisted Evil

    Wood grain effect looks very acceptable for the scale Smile

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Mon May 31, 2010 8:16 am

    im chiming in as ray put it. it looks good but forgive me for being blunt it looks too clean i would go for darker washes and a greyish worn out feel, afterall this is a field workshop.
    this is just my opinion so i sugggest you wait for other maybe more qualified suggestions
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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  bcauchi on Mon May 31, 2010 8:36 am

    I think that the grain is just fine but the wood is too homogenous. You need to vary the main hu3es of the different planks. Maybe at this point you can mask off some of them and spray a very light and transparent colour over some of them, some a bit browner, some greyish, etc. You hardy find planking which is so homogenous.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  iCocker on Mon May 31, 2010 8:38 am

    RayC

    These are just for you ... https://airbrushes.com/product_info.php?products_id=20693, maybe you can atleast take note of the colours and create a similar mix for your own filters.

    Maybe you can sort out, not sure if available online, some excellent articles by a french modeller on MilitaryModelling. He has an article on wethered wood, practically he works a lot with greyish/brown and raw umber washes + pigments.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Mon May 31, 2010 8:47 am

    thank you ivan for reminding me i should have an article by the french guy on the french magazine minitracks somewhere. i will bring it over on wednesday

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Mon May 31, 2010 10:33 am

    Thanks guys. It looks too homogenous to me too Sad Infact I don't really like the overall colour of the wood. It's a kind of an experiment, that's why I tried it on the floor only. I will try some different glazes to individual planks as soon as the oils dry and see what happens. I thought of weathering it further but it's difficult for me to give an overall weathering effect to a smooth surface (not like if the grains were etched) and so I cannot drybrush with different tones like we generally do on wood(I don't know if I'm expressing myself well enough).
    Regarding the walls, I was thinking of making them less weathered than the floor because they are not exposed to atmospheric conditions like the outside walls. What do you think? I'm using John Reid's albatross diorama as guide.





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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  jojjemannen on Mon May 31, 2010 10:54 am

    RayCaruana wrote:Thanks guys. It looks too homogenous to me too Sad Infact I don't really like the overall colour of the wood. It's a kind of an experiment, that's why I tried it on the floor only.

    Growing up in and around wooden housing I can say like this, the floors are all homogeneous in color. The only thing that differs the floors are the "the area where the twigs and the branches comes out" can't find the name for it. they are all in different shades of brown and in different sizes.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Mon May 31, 2010 10:59 am

    jojjemannen wrote:
    RayCaruana wrote:Thanks guys. It looks too homogenous to me too Sad Infact I don't really like the overall colour of the wood. It's a kind of an experiment, that's why I tried it on the floor only.

    Growing up in and around wooden housing I can say like this, the floors are all homogeneous in color. The only thing that differs the floors are the "the area where the twigs and the branches comes out" can't find the name for it. they are all in different shades of brown and in different sizes.

    /Tiny

    Thanks a lot Tiny. Your input in especially in this one is much appreciated. Maybe I should only "dirty" the floor a bit more then to make it look more like a workshop floor. BTW the areas where the branches are cut are called knots if I'm not mistaken.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  smallia on Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:36 pm

    Ray, I just saw this. I like what you did so far but I have to agree with the others.It's too clean,especially this being a workshop.All the others' suggestions are quite valid

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:21 pm

    Ejja mela Steve jahasra at last!! I was very keen on having your input as well mate Smile I'm really into this one and is doing all I can to produce a decent piece. I stayed home wednesday as I wanted to try the method I found on the net for the floor. I also rescribed the wooden surfaces from scratch on a new sheet of styrene because I wasn't happy with the width of the planks...looked a bit overscaled IMO. I reduced the width to 3mm.
    This is the result of the painting on a test sheet using only GW washes on a white acrylic basecoat. I not sure if it looks natural enough yet Sad What do you think? These planks are painted on the "overscaled" 4.8mm v-groove plasticard.




    For scale comparison...


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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  jojjemannen on Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:48 pm

    As a native of a pinewood country and IKEA I can only say.. It looks like home.

    But it lacks the .. darkened areas where the branches pops out of the tree.
    If you see this picture you might get what I'm referring to.


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