Werner Voss in 1:48scale

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  skyhigh on Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:58 pm

    Wow Ray ... what you have in mind for the title....
    and may I suggest something, I think you need to weather or dirty more the tool box and the posters are looking to bright or new.... the other work is fantastic

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:59 pm

    looks great ray one thing if i may some tea stains on the posters if you can

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:58 pm

    Great work mate.....if I were you I would take Alex's suggestions re tea stains Twisted Evil

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Tancred on Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:03 pm


    Nice work Ray and agree with the others on some more weathering. Did you scratchbuild the toolbox?


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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:04 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Wow Ray ... what you have in mind for the title....
    and may I suggest something, I think you need to weather or dirty more the tool box and the posters are looking to bright or new.... the other work is fantastic

    Thanks Marco. I am still unsure about the title. Was thinking of something on the lines of "I wonder if she will fit on my bird" or " At last, I can experience the LeRhone" or "I wonder what it's like to fly a LeRhone" or ...any ideas?

    Regarding the toolbox, it is actually scratched in the corners and top, but I guess that's not enough. I will try to steal some ideas on scratches from the AFV guys and apply them to the toolbox Smile

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:06 pm

    alex wrote:looks great ray one thing if i may some tea stains on the posters if you can

    Will certainly take your advice and stain them. Thanks.

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:08 pm

    Tancred wrote:
    Nice work Ray and agree with the others on some more weathering. Did you scratchbuild the toolbox?

    No Tancred it's not scratchbuilt. It's part of Verlinden's workshop set.

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    Great work...

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:06 am

    Enjoyed the build up of this little scene thru the weeks...

    Echo the others suggestions...re scratching the tool box I suggest the fried egg technique...u damdamha!!!

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:39 am

    Eh, tea stains for Her Voss, was he in the RFC? I guess it should more be coffee, beer and wusters
    Regarding weathering of wooden box, I am not 100% idea with damdama, this was just a wooden box in a shed, I rather go in your excellent work so far done ageing wood, and chipping it out with bright natural wood showing in the corners and areas that would see the top layered patina knocked off. Metal one needs chipping and scratches ...
    Something I am seeing missing and would add more to the drama that he is an ace, might be ideal to hang a piece of plane trophy on the wall.
    As for name make it short and simple IMHO, like Pimp my Fokker, A LeRhone for my Fokker, Voss Update.
    Good work mate!
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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:51 am

    Well done, original setup.

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    Tool box....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:10 am

    @Ivan....Have an identical tool box for my cromwell...thought it was a metal box???
    Went for a red colour...do I have to swap for green???

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:59 am

    Dottore wrote:@Ivan....Have an identical tool box for my cromwell...thought it was a metal box???
    Went for a red colour...do I have to swap for green???

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    Vignette has 2 boxes, one is wood, tool mox is metal ... so each one it's own weathering effect.
    Regarding undercoat for metal, so that is a good debate, better not hijack this thread on, but I can assure you not everything was redprimer in WW2. It is a fashion to put redprimer [redoxide] to any metal parts as jerries used it for the panzers. But they also used grey and green, and these 3 colours are still used to this day for much of the metal priming [correct me if I am wrong]. Now as for Allies what primer used I have no idea, discussing with Zaloga he assured me that he never found any redprimer on russian armour ... again so guessimng what in WW1 they primed metal with might be a HolyGrail!
    so I would keep a safe bet & do metal chipping of German Brown Black to resemble weathered metal.
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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:07 am

    the british used different types of primer, zinc based grey/green, for metals mainly aluminuiom, lead base grey for mainly sheet metal, red oxide multi purpose they also had a cream coloured paint which was used as a tank interior colour painted over the primer. so i guess the colours where universal.

    and as ivan said who knows what the primer colour of german toolbox was?. so your guess is as good as anybody else's, so dont loose too much sleep on this and go for IVAN's hint

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    What I meant....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:21 am

    was...is red a suitable colour for a british tool box...(not undercoat)...

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:28 am

    for a civy toolbox yes, military bronze green

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    grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:49 am

    Have to repaint then....any vallejo reference cus? How about Russian uniform green (lightened)?

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:21 pm

    NO TOO LIGHT
    HUMBROL 75 ENAMELS CLOSEST MATCH
    TAMIYA HF61 WOULD BE CLOSE BUT STILL NOT GREEN ENOUGH. BUT I GUESS WITH THE WEATHERING IT WILL DO

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:49 pm

    Were that style of tool box standard to a tank? Could be they 'burrowed' a french one from the surrounding and have an excuse to add colour ...
    So about premiers, and this goes to panzers someone over ML indicated that the system was over metal to paint in zinc grey, repaint welds, joint and brackets with a cream paint [normally by hand] and spray over red primer [or green late war].

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:43 pm

    Are we talking about that green box Ray made in his small dio or!!!!!!

    Because I'm confused which box are you all talking about is it the WW1 or Doc WW2 ....in the first I was mention...Ray tool box... Shocked Question Exclamation

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Gordon on Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:25 pm

    Nice work Ray

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:57 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Are we talking about that green box Ray made in his small dio or!!!!!!

    Because I'm confused which box are you all talking about is it the WW1 or Doc WW2 ....in the first I was mention...Ray tool box... Shocked Question Exclamation

    They hijacked my thread Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Mad Mad Mad

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:21 pm

    RayCaruana wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Are we talking about that green box Ray made in his small dio or!!!!!!

    Because I'm confused which box are you all talking about is it the WW1 or Doc WW2 ....in the first I was mention...Ray tool box... Shocked Question Exclamation

    They hijacked my thread Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Mad Mad Mad

    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  alexbb on Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:51 pm

    RayCaruana wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Are we talking about that green box Ray made in his small dio or!!!!!!

    Because I'm confused which box are you all talking about is it the WW1 or Doc WW2 ....in the first I was mention...Ray tool box... Shocked Question Exclamation

    They hijacked my thread Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Mad Mad Mad

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  Ray on Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:39 am

    alex wrote:
    RayCaruana wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Are we talking about that green box Ray made in his small dio or!!!!!!

    Because I'm confused which box are you all talking about is it the WW1 or Doc WW2 ....in the first I was mention...Ray tool box... Shocked Question Exclamation

    They hijacked my thread Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Mad Mad Mad

    ara ma tibdiex int ukoll ta
    this is something which is unique to our forum we have no boundries we are free to go from one subject to another . anyway you should be glad, this will multiply the number of posts on your thread

    hu pacenzja ray min jitwieled tond ma jmutx kwadru specjalment jien

    lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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    Re: Werner Voss in 1:48scale

    Post  RayCaruana on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:31 am

    iCocker wrote:Eh, tea stains for Her Voss, was he in the RFC? I guess it should more be coffee, beer and wusters
    Regarding weathering of wooden box, I am not 100% idea with damdama, this was just a wooden box in a shed, I rather go in your excellent work so far done ageing wood, and chipping it out with bright natural wood showing in the corners and areas that would see the top layered patina knocked off. Metal one needs chipping and scratches ...
    Something I am seeing missing and would add more to the drama that he is an ace, might be ideal to hang a piece of plane trophy on the wall.
    As for name make it short and simple IMHO, like Pimp my Fokker, A LeRhone for my Fokker, Voss Update.
    Good work mate!
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