Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  Tancred on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:31 pm


    Ivan, if it's fear you wanted to depict then you managed very well. The diorama is simply superb in all it's aspects I love you

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:33 pm

    I agree with tancred, they really look scared, you managed to pass that emotion.

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  clioguy on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:36 pm

    Ivan, sorry to butt in like this, but I have a few questions (since I am no AFV builder)

    1. How did the tank end up on it's side? I am guessing it was attacked in some way (an explosion?).

    2. There is soil on the sides of the tank, but none on the turret. Wouldn't there be some soil on/underneath the turret due to the explosion that put the tank on it's side?

    3. The hole the soldiers are hiding in, was it dug by them? If so, is there enough soil on the sides to represent the soil taken out of the hole? I am asking this since I find it a little strange that they dug the soil, used it to cover their comrade and there is none on the tree trunk. I don't think they would have had time to be careful where they throw the soil, so it would have ended up on the tree as well (which I also presume it was broken by the force of the explosion)

    Not meaning to be disrespectful, just honest feedback

    And BTW, I think it looks great Very Happy

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    Post  skyhigh on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:58 pm

    Ivan I am becoming a fan for you dio ..how creative you are...welldone you captuerd good the story ,
    No Duncan that hole is a bomb crater, they did not dug it the soldiers and it's not the cause of the impact that put the tank sideways because if it was the case, the tank went on the other side...correct me if I'm wrong Ivan ..that's how I'm seeing the story.... cheers

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    Post  clioguy on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:28 pm

    Marco, I thought that the tank was on it's side due to an explosion (which is not part of the dio).

    I also thought that the man dug the whole because there are 2 spades in the whole near them (I think I saw the wooden handles).

    Anyway, not knowing the history of the dio (which I think it will form part of the final product and be presented together with dio), this is what I think happened. Although admittedly, that would not explain how the canon ended up in the hole.... scratch

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  alexbb on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:37 pm


    WHAT CAN I SAY IVAN
    i thought it was going to be difficult for you to emulate last year"s dio but i see that you always manage to come up with something new and this one is just as good if not better.
    now this is what i call DIORAMA/VIGNETTE you immediatly understand what the modeller wants to depict

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  Noel Petroni on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:51 pm

    Tajba, Ivan!

    From where did you get the figures.... did you scratch them?

    If you take it to Euro... it should be a winner!

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  Ray on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:56 pm

    As Alex said, you managed to emulate last year's masterpiece tenfold as it is not easy to say so MUCH with so FEW!!!

    The NARRATIVE is ALIVE in this one!!!!

    A BIG WELDONE cheers

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    Post  Dottore on Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:07 am

    Great model..figs...terrain...and story...

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  alexbb on Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:25 am

    Dottore wrote:Great model..figs...terrain...and story...

    Dottore

    i think that for once most of us if not all will agree to that

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    Post  RayCaruana on Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:48 am

    Sh%^&*t I can see nothing except red X's instead of pictures! I have to see them at home Sad

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  iCocker on Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:26 am

    First of all thanks guys for the appreciation and well received project! Much apprecaited!

    So some answers to the enquisitive questions ...
    The figures are converted, but they started off from a trial range before Stalingrad line of products emerged. Sculpted by a russian artist [sorry right now I forgot the name], they are very good and have really good body language, they are on the thin side, but that is also in the human form as well ...

    So regarding the position,a know it's a strange but as Marco have posted there is proof that tanks ended like this, have seen Tigers, Panthers and recent T-55 and also toppled up completely upside down! I guess it is the result of artillery bombardments or arial. infact here that what I tried to portray, ground zero, an area that is being or has been bombarded nad still receiving incoming shells ... hence the rubble on the tank. On top cannot hold material as it's at a slop but have lots of dust to reflect the action, but in crevices and areas that can trap debri [not seen in fotos] it has.

    How the burrel ended there, it's called artistic license with a gravity twist - to give the idea how come the tank was stopped at that awkward and dangerouse position which + the pole and debris held the tank from toppoling over, belly up. Strangely enough, I found out that tanks left in the field were occassionally taken by infantrymen and created a conventional pillbox or cover on battlefields. So what I had in mind is an aftermath of such an action, infantry trying to take cover underneath a dangerouse position, in a crater and turn it out in a fox hole by means of spades etc, you are right would have been more realistic heavier debris on the front but then would hide the figures IMO, so I added more on the sides and tank. I agree that birch tree might need some more dusting besides the damage, infact the last image though not clear shows more dusting on burrel, helmets and figures, wirings to the telegraph pole to create a web entangled effect, damage to the metal area were the tree trunk is leaning and 'un ucello del mal augurio' as the Italians say, a scavenging crow ... thanks guys for your toughts and critical appraisal!

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  David on Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:02 pm

    well done a true diodrama

    hope you get gold for this one

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    Post  iCocker on Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:29 pm

    David wrote:well done a true diodrama

    hope you get gold for this one

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    Thanks Dave, well very very difficult that one predict the verdict of Euro's jury, apart that section is always highly contended by the best dioramists on the globe right now BUT hopefully at least having this project appreciated by the audience and modellers shall be already a BIG bonus ... speaking of dioramas this year we hall be seeing the continue of that gigantic 1/35 Chateau which is extemnded to a subborb now ... that French is surely brave!

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    Post  RayCaruana on Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:13 pm

    Simply SUPERB!!! You're a diomaster my friend Cool

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  bcauchi on Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:12 pm

    Just seen it now Ivan, i cannot add any more to what has already been said but i want you to know that i love it. Your idea is brilliant, utterly brilliant. Those soldiers cowering under the tank are a master stroke, you are da man my friend. It all shows that you spend a good time thinking and not just hurrying into putting bits together to get it done. I hope that it gets the recognition it deserves.

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    Post  iCocker on Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:38 am

    Cheers mates!

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  alexbb on Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:09 am

    just to let you guys know

    HERES IVAN COLLECTING HIS WELL DESERVED GOLD AT EURO



    WELL DONE IVAN. AT LAST A GOLD IN THE AFV SECTION ALL THANKS TO YOU

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  bcauchi on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 am

    A well deserved award if ever there was one, great going mate!!! You merited no less. Thanks Alex for sharing that bit of news.

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  jojjemannen on Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:54 pm

    WOW!

    Congratulations and well deserved!

    /Tiny, A proud SSM member!

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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  skyhigh on Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:24 pm

    Yes Ivan welldone indeed.... you and the others members made SSM proud..and of course you and the AFV's members have gain more respect...welldone Ivan... cheers

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    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:57 pm

    congratulations and well done cheers

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    Post  iCocker on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:11 pm

    Cheers buddies, we just arrived this evening, survivors of a very good Ryanair landing : )

    What can I saw Alex I do not know from were you got that foto but they just captured me posing for Adrian Hopwood LOL! They really captured the moment!

    It was a great show with great names, as usual there is much to say aswell but we leave that for our club discussions ...

    The entries were 1000+,it was a congregation of great names which has been a long time since something like this ... the Spanish came with a good force which almost had the BOS, the Italians as well and a good number of international names ... will await the MILMOD Special now!

    Well done to MALTA Team, [inc ALEX and oliver who had good results for the first time in a hard section/s] it was a terrible battle and though surely some awards should have been much better all in all and considered what happened up there we made our presence heard and shown ... heard more !

    PS. Alex a Spanish guy that builts the same russian armoured car send his regards, forgot his name sorry!

    Too tired now guys catch you later ...

    Ivan




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    Re: Soviet Fast Tank BT-7 1935 model/1-35

    Post  Gordon on Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:17 am

    Congratulations Ivan, VIVA SSM

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    Well done

    Post  in nannu pec on Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:40 am

    Prosit and well done everybody.........you did us proud AGAIN....VIVA SSM.
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