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    A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:01 pm

    Hi, i am am William.i am writing this with the permission of my dad, am i allowed to post this as i am not member? Smile

    I have an M3 stuart and pak 40 tank. do these two go together in a small diorama? Could you pls help me. thks. Very Happy

    Just a suggestion, would it be a good idea to create a junior section in the forum as we are not allowed to attend club meetings Sad

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  alexbb on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:14 pm

    william
    as long as you have your fathers permission you can post anytime you like in my book. you are most likely to be the near future generation of our club
    now as for the question regarding the pak and stuart you can combine them in this way the stuart is passing by an abandoned pak40. do not do it the other way round that is the pak40 near a destroyed stuart as it is obvious that if the tank got that close to the pak it would be the pak that got off worst. the pak 40 only advantage on a tank was that it could hit it and destroy it at long ranges before it could be seen

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  David on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:16 pm

    If I'm right you can make a diorama in north Africa with the M3 passing a knocked out 75mm pak40.
    As a battle it can be Gazala

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Ray on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:20 pm

    Uncle Ray throwing his 2cents worth Shocked Suspect ?

    Brilliant idea re junior section on the forum William Cool (it's in the blood I know Idea )

    Re club meetings Twisted Evil you can always attend up till 8pm (like we instigate any other interested juniors to do) and then, your Dad (as we instigate the other parents to do) will take you home and stay there with you What a Face

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  alexbb on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:22 pm

    Ray wrote:Uncle Ray throwing his 2cents worth Shocked Suspect ?

    Brilliant idea re junior section on the forum William Cool (it's in the blood I know Idea )

    Re club meetings Twisted Evil you can always attend up till 8pm (like we instigate any other interested juniors to do) and then, your Dad (as we instigate the other parents to do) will take you home and stay there with you What a Face

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Ray on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:46 pm

    Qabel ma ktibtlu jien, ma kienx hemm replies u hsibt li kont No1 waqt li qed nikteb, imbghad sibt lilek u lil David ghaddejtuni Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Suspect

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:31 am

    Jep Willy give it a try, the idea of an abondoned Pak is much more ideal ... or else why not do seperate vignettes ... will keep your father more 'labour intensive' after the stipulated junior clubmember time zone!

    William you'll be having my assistance on this ... start with the Pak as it is a very straight foward gun, if not mistaken we have one in our War MNuseum which has recently re-opened. It is in a desert scheme, but if going European theatre then German Dark Yellow is a must post 43.

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:37 am

    This is William again, thks for the help.

    I have another question for you.

    were could i find some pics and which battle would the tank and gun represent best Question

    ex:Us Army, Tunisia (late 1942)
    Us Army, Europe
    British Army, Africa
    Canadian Army

    THKS, William

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:40 am

    Best ask Dottore, as he is an expert in the USA army, but if you have the Tamiya model I recall that it needs changes for Tunisia and better go to European Theatre. So Italy, Normandy, Belgium and Germany would be more ideal IMO ... x'tahseb?

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:53 am

    I just checked about the Tunisia version. No modifications needed.

    Thks and I will wait for the dottore to post as well. Very Happy

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    Versions....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:19 am

    The Academy M3A1 (NOT the HONEY) can be used as a US tank..in North africa mostly....was terribly obsolete and was not sent to Europe. Typically the kasserine battle pass saw them in action. Not sure if it met opposition from the PAK though....

    Now the Academy honey version was brityish but also used without sand skirts and stowage boxes on the rear by the americans in Philippines. If you plan to build the british Honey again go for North Africa but beware thre Academy interior is correct for the M3A1 NOT the british honey. So if u build the honey keep all the hatches closed. If you need references I have a book called modelling the staurt by S. Zaloga which is brilliant....

    Hope this helps
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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:13 am

    So what you are saying is that it would be better to do the European version of the tank.

    the model is a Tamiya and the interior is not given.

    I think it is a Mk.2 because of the welded turret, a machine gun on each sponson, one on a mount in the front and an anti-aircraft machine gun on the turret.

    I think I will go for the North Africa Tunisia version. What do you think Question Very Happy


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    Tamiya....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:22 am

    Thought it was the newer Academy version....

    Those were diesel engine variants...used by british and US in North Africa. They were used in the pacific by the US and Lend lease forces (inc Russians) BUT NOT IN EUROPE.

    Not a bad kit though made in the 70s.
    If the PAK was used in North Africa you are home and dry...if not hard to put them in the same scene i think....

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    Pak 40

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:41 am

    I did a little research on yahoo.
    I found apic of a Pak 40 with desert camo.
    Not sure if it is accurate.

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    Pretty sure....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:44 am

    It was used in NA the PAK...but I'm not a gerri fanatic so cant be certain...you'll have to wait for NOEL to reply....

    Interesting in the club how everyone has his field of expertise hux lol lol

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:57 am

    Normally all Jerry stuff in North Africa were panzer grey and coated with Desert Yellow [similar to Drak Yellow]. Normally no insignia or DAK palms as many like to show them, what might Paks have are white strips near the muzzle, around the barrel that indicated kill marks. Paks are sleek and in Africa many were dug in, almost till the muzzle and camoflaged with shrubs, stones, netting etc ... Tunisia was same situation only that the ambience had much more greenery and terrain more stony then the desert. Paks were crewed by Africa Korps and also by Falchimjagers in Tunisia. Check the site Marco indicated about DAK stuff ... will await Noel for further info!

    Happy modelling, but how nicer AFVs are then planes, hux William!

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:04 am

    u ejja it tnejn fihom listorja u ir ricerka interesanti , toqodux tipruvaw tisirqu il membri godda , hallu lazla jamlua huma.. cheers

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    Flimkien kollox possibli hux....

    Post  Dottore on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:19 am

    Ray is missing these topics today...he's at the ACADEMJA shooting practice cat

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  iCocker on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:26 am

    Le Marco mhux qed nisirqu membri ... niluminawhom biss sunny

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  alexbb on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:36 am

    william the pak40 was used in north africa but i have the check on the type of wheels

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:39 am

    Yesss ha jghamel ajruplan zgur yesss ...nahseb Ray waqt li ghed jimira , ikun ghed jimagina target xahaga !!!!!!!!!..mur oqod hdejh jekk jolqod bullseye ara kemm jeqred ...yes viva il forum... cheers

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:17 pm

    thks for the help.
    who knows maybe i will switch to AFVs now.
    missieri x'ser jaghmilli la jara din.

    Thks again, i will tell you how the project turns out. Very Happy Smile Laughing bounce

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  skyhigh on Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:20 pm

    Issa nugzak lil missierek cheers

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Joseph on Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:25 pm

    Will mur u sib post iehor fejn tghamel il-mudelli Smile ghax ha nizgumbrakk mill kamra lol!

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    Re: A question for you AFV fanatics

    Post  Ray on Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:37 pm

    As if Uncle Ray would miss on anything Evil or Very Mad

    Yes I was at Academy and I posted in the 15th Aug thread started by Ivan cheers

    Mela my 2cents worth up to what I've read so far and it will raise some eyebrows I'm sure Suspect

    On 2nd thoughts, I'd better not say anything as I'm quite tired after a gruellsome morning and I may say a CUCATA Sad so it's better that I hit the hay for a siesta, as I still have to catch some Terrorists tonight at MIA bom What a Face

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