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    Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Tancred on Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:53 pm

    This is the Italeri kit of the Autoblinda AB 43 built in Italy but only used by the Germans in WWII. After the war it was used by the Carabinieri. The scheme is green and red patches outlined with yellow as follows.



    This is the work so far:













    Next step is the yellow outline.


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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:12 pm

    tancred according to the italian afv expert pignato the colours on this version should be soft edge and not hard edge. i have just sent pdf but i doubt it will come through if not i will post link for you to download

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:19 pm

    here's an excellent pdf download on the subject

    http://www.modellismopiu.it/modules/news/article.php?storyid=991

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:22 pm

    another thing tancred the wheels should be the artilgio patern which unfortunaetly are incorrect on the kit

    why do you have to rush things? all you need to do is ask me for info

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Ray on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:37 pm

    What is that red camo substance please Suspect?

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:40 pm

    Ray wrote:What is that red camo substance please Suspect?


    silly putty or space putty. its a gooey toy putty ideal for masking as it does not drip or stain

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Ray on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:43 pm

    alex wrote:
    Ray wrote:What is that red camo substance please Suspect?


    silly putty or space putty. its a gooey toy putty ideal for masking as it does not drip or stain

    Cheers Laughing and from where do you get it Embarassed ?

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:50 pm

    Ray wrote:
    alex wrote:
    Ray wrote:What is that red camo substance please Suspect?


    silly putty or space putty. its a gooey toy putty ideal for masking as it does not drip or stain

    Cheers Laughing and from where do you get it Embarassed ?
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    any good online toyshop, e-bay etc

    link below
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Space-Putty-Red-like-silly-putty-and-bionic-putty-/260635284698?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item3caf12d4da

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    putty.....

    Post  Dottore on Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:32 am

    The putty looks real good...better than the blu tack I used last time i needed a hard edge....

    @ Alex...Joe F will tell you that with putty you cant get a hard edge...mahhh these aircraft guys!

    I bought the AB41 with l;oads of goodies...inc armorscle wheels...frankly not much bothered if they are not the correct pattern...just wanted to do away with the vinyl!

    @ TankRed...how was fit of the AB43???

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  J.Fenech on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:40 am

    Nice work Tancred, and I suggest you take into consideration any advice from Alex on AFVs.


    Dottore wrote:The putty looks real good...better than the blu tack I used last time i needed a hard edge....

    @ Alex...Joe F will tell you that with putty you cant get a hard edge...mahhh these aircraft guys!

    I bought the AB41 with l;oads of goodies...inc armorscle wheels...frankly not much bothered if they are not the correct pattern...just wanted to do away with the vinyl!

    @ TankRed...how was fit of the AB43???

    Dottore



    Dottore, I am afraid that you mis quoted me Suspect No , as I hate this type of masking system (putty) If I want a hard edge I use tape, if going for a soft edge I go free hand. Cool

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  iCocker on Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:00 am

    J.Fenech wrote:Nice work Tancred, and I suggest you take into consideration any advice from Alex on AFVs.


    Dottore wrote:The putty looks real good...better than the blu tack I used last time i needed a hard edge....

    @ Alex...Joe F will tell you that with putty you cant get a hard edge...mahhh these aircraft guys!

    I bought the AB41 with l;oads of goodies...inc armorscle wheels...frankly not much bothered if they are not the correct pattern...just wanted to do away with the vinyl!

    @ TankRed...how was fit of the AB43???

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    Dottore, I am afraid that you mis quoted me , as I hate this type of masking system (putty) If I want a hard edge I use tape, if going for a soft edge I go free hand.

    The idea of using this putty for tanks as it can work better for all the irregular surfaces, bumps and any protruding objects common on AFVs. Difficult to mask with tape if not a very flat subject with minmal hooks and crooks, which in our catalogues are very few subjects. Unfortunetly the other system is to work the hard edge by brush and fill by airbrush but in a subject like this it's tough as splotches are small .
    The good thing of this putty unlike bluetack or anything else is that it does not leave any oily substance if left for a longer period.
    Tancred, not an expert on Italian subjects and judging from what I saw but the redbrown looks a bit on the dark side, is it Lifecolour Italian camo mix?
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    putty....

    Post  Dottore on Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:17 am

    @ Joe Fenech....I meant Joseph Farrugia Twisted Evil

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:20 am

    iCocker wrote:
    J.Fenech wrote:Nice work Tancred, and I suggest you take into consideration any advice from Alex on AFVs.


    Dottore wrote:The putty looks real good...better than the blu tack I used last time i needed a hard edge....

    @ Alex...Joe F will tell you that with putty you cant get a hard edge...mahhh these aircraft guys!

    I bought the AB41 with l;oads of goodies...inc armorscle wheels...frankly not much bothered if they are not the correct pattern...just wanted to do away with the vinyl!

    @ TankRed...how was fit of the AB43???

    Dottore



    Dottore, I am afraid that you mis quoted me , as I hate this type of masking system (putty) If I want a hard edge I use tape, if going for a soft edge I go free hand.

    The idea of using this putty for tanks as it can work better for all the irregular surfaces, bumps and any protruding objects common on AFVs. Difficult to mask with tape if not a very flat subject with minmal hooks and crooks, which in our catalogues are very few subjects. Unfortunetly the other system is to work the hard edge by brush and fill by airbrush but in a subject like this it's tough as splotches are small .
    The good thing of this putty unlike bluetack or anything else is that it does not leave any oily substance if left for a longer period.
    Tancred, not an expert on Italian subjects and judging from what I saw but the redbrown looks a bit on the dark side, is it Lifecolour Italian camo mix?
    Ivan


    i vil zay zis only wonce the camo pattern should be soft edge ignore the drawings and refer to photos and notes on download i supplied.

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Tancred on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:22 pm

    Thanks for all the tips Alex and all, I am planning to do the yellow in soft edge and this would make the green and red patterns soft edge (if I manage to get it right that is).

    As for the colours I used Vallejo Tank Green and Red Brown, as I spray in the garage do not have the numbers with me.

    Alex, thanks for that download, will go through it. Do you know where I can get more accurate wheels?

    The putty is called Space Putty and I had posted this some time back http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/anything-else-f25/space-putty-t849.htm
    I tried it out on this one and found it works real good, absolutely no residue is left on the model.

    Matthew, fit of the kit is very good with only a little filler used.

    Cheers guys for all the comments.


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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  alexbb on Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:51 pm

    TANCRED YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS

    FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHER GUYS THESE SHOULD BE THE COLOURS FOR THE AB41, AB42 AB43 EUROPEAN THEATRE

    GRIGIO VERDE SCURO (DARK GREY GREEN) LIFECOLOUR UA214
    ROSSO RUGGINE (RUST RED) LIFECOLOUR UA215
    GIALLO SABBIA SCURO (SANDYELLOW DARK) LIFECOLOUR UA217

    AS FOR YOUR VEHICLE I WOULD SUGGEST OVERSPRAYNIG THE GREEN IN A DARKER SHADE AND THE BROWN IN A LIGHTER MORE REDDISH HUE BEFORE YOU DO THE SAND OUTLINE. HUSSAR MODELS DO THE BEST WHEELS AROUND (AIR CONNECTION) IN BOTH VERSIONS NEXT COME ROYAL MODELS, CRIEL, AND HISTORICA UNFORTUNAETLY FOR THE DOCTOR ARMOURSCALE ARE NOT VERY HIGH ON THE LIST. IF YOU NEED THEM IN A HURRY TRY ROYAL MODELS EITHER DIRECT FROM PRODUCERS OR FROM HISTOREX

    I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS EVER SINCE THIS FORUM OPENED. IF ANY OF YOU EVER NEED INFO ON AFVS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK, MY GRATIFICATION WOULD BE THAT OF SEEING A GREAT MODEL. I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE AS SOME OF YOU CAN VOUCH.

    P.S. REMEMBER THIS VERSION HAS THE ARTIGLIO PATERN WHEELS

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Tancred on Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:04 pm


    Tbezbiza tajba, imma haqni Rolling Eyes

    That pdf is excellent! Thank you very much Alex, will re-spray it as the colours are also not to my liking especially the red.

    Now off to the BBQ pig


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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  slingshot392 on Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:15 pm

    Looking good so far!

    I used to play with Silly Putty when I was a kid, I just recently picked a number of the eggs up at Wal-Mart (it still comes in brightly colored plastic eggs), they were less than one dollar each. It makes a nice mask for areas where tape just won't work, I also use it a lot to hold small parts while painting,gluing, filing, or what ever. I've found that if you need to cut it with a knife, it helps to get the blade in water first.

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:21 pm

    What happened to this model? Neutral

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    Re: Autoblinda AB 43

    Post  Tancred on Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:42 pm

    Noel Petroni wrote:What happened to this model? Neutral

    I #8 it Rolling Eyes

    Will have to try one of these http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1285804820/What+will+strip+Vallejo+paint


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