Romanian Il-28 (Actually a Harbin H-5R)

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    Romanian Il-28 (Actually a Harbin H-5R)

    Post  Scirocco on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:43 pm

    I am trying to make a 1/72nd replica of this at the moment:

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Romania---Air/Harbin-H-5R/0275195/L/&sid=7fd8026f897ce8090c47433372e85a8c

    This was specially painted to attend RIAT in 2001, but crash landed a few weeks earlier and was written off. I have already printed the markings on paper to get the correct size. Problem is that I cannot find a photo of the underside of the aircraft to see the configuration of the cameras for this recce version of the H-5. Does anyone have any please? I know that it is difficult, but any help will do. Thank You. If anyone else is interested I can make some copies of the decals.

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    Post  skyhigh on Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:38 am

    Gordon I will try what I can find , but later after work ........ study

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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:15 am

    Gordon I think this is good .... the site is http://geocities.ws/alvmaia/Ilyushin/Il28/index.html




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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:24 am

    Gordon you have to figure out what mark exactly is , because Airliners say H.5R, the drawing say H.5B nad the site from I took the same pic say H.5C Exclamation Question scratch



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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:28 am

    This is your pic it is the same aircraft no .......


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    Post  Scirocco on Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:34 pm

    Marco, I have seen all these photographs and I have noticed the different designations as well! I also found these that are also quite helpful.





    According to the second photograph, It appears that it is a standard bomber, and the bomb bay doors are plain and do not have the slight bulge or the camera apertures, but it is very difficult to see because of the low-res. Trumpeter also has a gun port on the starboard side which is surely not present on this, and has some vents next to the gun panel which I have already removed. I have the decals ready but the kit is still far from ready, it needs some filler. Will try to post some pics of the kit tomorrow.
    Also the 3-view by Americo Maia, has some mistakes: 1) the polar bear is missing, 2) the radar radome is black not green, 3) the top roundels need to be further out, in line with the red painted trim tabs on the ailerons 4) turret is for the Ilyushin produced a/c and not a Harbin and the camo pattern is slightly mistaken I think.

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    Post  Scirocco on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

    Here is the progress so far on this H-5. Decals printed on papar and cut to check the size on the model. The polar bear painting is actually slightly too large and the ones on the decals are smaller, as is the number 310. The engine nacelles have a step in the Trumpeter kit which is incorrect, hence the filler to fair them in with the top surface of the wings. Other than this it appears to be quite accurate. The colours of the cockpit are according to pictures by Ken Duffey on the Linden hill website of an actual Romanian H-5. In fact I have to repaint the seats as I was following photos of an Il-28 at first!





    And Revell's P-47D which is much easier to build and the only correction is the cowling flaps gaps (and some sink marks above the landing gear bays).



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    Post  J.Fenech on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:24 pm

    Interesting subject, keep posting!

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:53 pm

    Hey Hey ....Joseph beware some one is competing with you lol! check your production line.. lol!

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    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:03 am

    skyhigh wrote:Hey Hey ....Joseph beware some one is competing with you lol! check your production line.. lol!

    That is a good thing, there more the merrier!!! cheers

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    Post  Scirocco on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:24 pm

    J.Fenech wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Hey Hey ....Joseph beware some one is competing with you lol! check your production line.. lol!

    That is a good thing, there more the merrier!!! cheers

    Ahna lilu irridu narawh jarma xi wiehed Joe, mhux hekk!!

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    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:45 pm

    Scirocco wrote:
    J.Fenech wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Hey Hey ....Joseph beware some one is competing with you lol! check your production line.. lol!

    That is a good thing, there more the merrier!!! cheers

    Ahna lilu irridu narawh jarma xi wiehed Joe, mhux hekk!!


    I agree 100% with you!!

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    Post  skyhigh on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:34 pm

    Scirocco wrote:
    J.Fenech wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Hey Hey ....Joseph beware some one is competing with you lol! check your production line.. lol!

    That is a good thing, there more the merrier!!! cheers

    Ahna lilu irridu narawh jarma xi wiehed Joe, mhux hekk!!




    lol! lol! lol! lol! int ukoll ha sawatni Gordon .. lol! lol! lol!


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    Post  Scirocco on Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:05 pm

    Here are some photos of this early Trumpeter offering, and it shows as the fit is not good at all, and needs a lot of filling and sanding. At the moment I am trying to fit the transparencies as fit is quite bad actually!




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    Post  bcauchi on Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:13 pm

    Great progress and what a lovely aircraft.

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    Post  in nannu pec on Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:21 pm

    agree with Brian...I love your choices Gordon...Smile....keep it up..well done
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    Post  Scirocco on Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:36 pm

    Another silly mistake from Trumpeter. The windows on the nose are incorrect, and the frames are recessed from the windows, so you cannot just sand it plain and mask correctly. So I cut the correct portion and I am now trying to replace the rest! Not very confident I will get this right though. I have read several times that this was a copy of the Italeri (Bilek) Il-28, so I took out my unbuilt Italeri, and it is correct! But too large to fit on the Trumpeter. Some photos of the Revell P-47D still requiring some tough ups though before decals.




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    Post  Wayne on Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:26 pm

    Nice work Gordon... that ruskie's proving to be a real pain but I'm sure you'll get it looking great in the end. Love the way the thunderbolt's turning out too.


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    Post  bcauchi on Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:46 pm

    That's what modeling is all about, don;t give up. Its coming along just nice.

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    Post  Scirocco on Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:29 pm

    After several attempts at making a replacement front end for this H-5, I managed to get one that is very clear and good shape, but it is extremely thin and I think I will have trouble in both glueing it on and masking, but I will have a try. The other shape is for a Matchbox Victor which has been lying around nearly completely built for years! I think it will be much easier to make as it is very shallow when compared to the H-5's front.




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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:44 pm

    I love this bird... cheers

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    Post  Scirocco on Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:22 pm

    I managed to make another canopy from 1 mm PETG sheets, which is just thick enough to extrude to the length of this canopy. The nose formed (as it is not actually the canopy) is very thin and has to be treated very carefully! Here are some photos of the process and fitted to the aircraft with some smoothing out, but more required.





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    Post  bcauchi on Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:30 pm

    amazing work, well done. It is getting better all the time.

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    Post  Scirocco on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:07 pm

    After several sessions of filling and sanding around the nose, I finally got to airbrushing the quite colourful scheme. It still requires some touch ups here and there but I think that the colours are close enough.



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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:54 pm

    Yes Gordon it loooks already nice , may be the blue on the grey there is some splaters on the edges, why didn't you used blutech for the pattern....

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