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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  iCocker on Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:56 am

    Sometimes in dios one has to take off what is logical and how things were properly done to achieve the clear message ... hints always help ...

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  Ray on Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:24 pm

    iCocker wrote:Sometimes in dios one has to take off what is logical and how things were properly done to achieve the clear message ... hints always help ...

    Iv

    Again agreed with Ivan 102% cheers

    Looks like it's a sort of good natured conspiracy against you Brian bounce

    Joking apart, as Ivan said.. in Dios, sometimes, logic do not INSTANTLY HIT the viewer's eye with a clear enough message, hence you have to sacrifice it in those circumstances & "help" Sad


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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:48 pm

    you made your point, i will hesitatingly add a couple of empty tins of 76 paint. I really feel it is time i work on something else now. So that is the final adjustment. But as i always do i will take up your advice.

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  skyhigh on Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:46 pm

    iCocker wrote:I think it is awesome and please test the box dio option, it will benefit more then you think ... Nothing will get lost anzi will please more the idea to scrutinize detail, one suggestion I think it still need a red bucket paint near the plane, underneath it or on that step ladder ... will give it more the idea ... Important it willbe on the front of the dio not the back ... What do you think?



    Twisted Evil Twisted Evil You see Brian what I told you ... what Ivan sad ....( red bucket paint near the plane )........

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    Post  bcauchi on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:49 am

    But now it is crystal clear that the plane is being repainted blue/grey. DO i have to make a sign too???? Yesterday i placed an overturned bucket of paint in front of the red plane. Will post a couple of pics first chance i get.

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:22 pm

    Look what you made me do! Some idiot kicked over a can of paint!! Is there still any more doubt that the plane is being repainted blue/grey??








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    Post  RayCaruana on Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:35 pm

    Ah now I understand that the plane is being overpainted grey!!! lol! lol!

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:33 am

    Yo Ho Ho and a merry Christmas to you Ray! So glad you finally figured that out Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  RayCaruana on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:02 am

    Ha ha, imam x'tip ta qniezah ahna ux? Twisted Evil Merry Christmas to you too Bri santa . Now let's hope for some good modeling weather so that I will finish the Fokker before the Christmas holidays are over!

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:05 am

    Seems like this is going to be a most modelling unfriendly winter ever. No sign of those nice rainy Sundays when no one wants to go out so you just cuddle up with your plastic, metal and resin and do your magic.

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    Post  in nannu pec on Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:54 pm

    Bis sens Brian....... Bis sens Smile Smile Smile Wish you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year santa santa santa santa santa
    In nannu and Rina

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    Post  bcauchi on Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:56 pm

    Same to you too (two). Keep well and take care. Hope you are better now.

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    Post  iCocker on Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:35 pm

    Oooops shit happens!

    Brilliant idea Brian, such a small thing will ad more sense to the story! Gives also sense to the drama with the agitated figitty sprayers! Prosit!

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    Post  bcauchi on Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:07 pm

    Thanks Ivan, i wish you could have seen it in real life, looks much better than in the pics. I might be tempted to bring it over again if you tell me that you will be there but I am sure that the rest of the guys have had enough of it. I posted over 300 pics and took it to the club in various stages about three times. But i would really love you to see it sinc eyou were the one who instigated me to do it. Have a good Christmas santa santa

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    Post  skyhigh on Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:09 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Thanks Ivan, i wish you could have seen it in real life, looks much better than in the pics. I might be tempted to bring it over again if you tell me that you will be there but I am sure that the rest of the guys have had enough of it. I posted over 300 pics and took it to the club in various stages about three times. But i would really love you to see it sinc eyou were the one who instigated me to do it.  Have a good Christmas santa santa



    No Brian I never get fed up see your models.....Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year santa

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:21 am

    thanks Marco, that is a very nice compliment. Happy Christmas to you and yours too and hoping to see you build a model next year.

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    Post  iCocker on Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:49 am

    Would love to see it Brian Smile for next year, but worst to the worst would sure have a pride of place this coming expo so will get to see it there aswell Smile

    Merry Christmas Brian, what are plans for 2015, something OFB ... LOL

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  Ray on Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:55 am

    Praying for RAIN on Sundays Brian, for your sake ESPECIALLY cheers

    Can't wait to see it finished, but as Ivan said we can all wait for our Expo Cool

    Merry Christmas to you & your loved ones my SSM Fratre Twisted Evil

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:55 pm

    I read the post regarding the paint............ I have one question: Does it really matter what one thinks the colour the plane is being painted?

    I don't see you have to give a clear message to that point at all.

    The attention to detail, and there are lots of them is what makes this diorama great, apart from the fact that it is also an original approach.

    Must look fantastic to see it live!

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    Post  bcauchi on Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:03 pm

    Hi Noel, in this case it does because this dio is representing an episode which really happened. The comet was painted red for the CO's first operational mission and he did not like the idea. The ground crew repainted it after the mission, that is what it depicts.

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:32 pm

    Experimenting with the box dio concept. From my trials i think i like it and i will definitely go for it. I need to get some decent lights and do some more trials but the concept is there and i don;t think that any detail went missing. Maybe a bit under the dismantled plane but with the proper amount of lighting, it will come to light. I need your opinions on this one. My idea was to flood the entire area with warm white light so that one can see everything and no detail is lost. Then i flooded the two important areas in the scene, the group of men seeing the spraying process and the dismantled plane with a cold white beam so that these areas are made prominent. In my opinion it works and your eyes are immediately taken on to the group of men in the centre of the dio. Then you start noting the other detail. Opinions please. I am sorry but the pics are the best i could do. As usual, it looks much better in real life. It will have two sides in glass, the exposed ones and all the light embedded in the ceiling which will be a light box and close everything up. I like it, what do you think?




























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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  RayCaruana on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:07 am

    Prosit Brian for taking the boxed dio route, I'm sure you wont be disappointed. I like and prefer the spot lighting, it makes them stand out and draw the viewer's attention to the areas where the story is happening. I'm not sure about the colour temperature of the lighting scratch. John Reid used warm white in his Fokker diorama if I remember well, but that was WW1. Did they have fluorescent lights at during that time or only incandescent? I don't know I'm asking...Insomma BOMBA gejja man bom


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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  bcauchi on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:12 am

    Ray, its not what colour they had. I just want to draw attention to certain parts of the dio and that can be done with the light. If you think it doesn't make sense it can all be lit up with the same type of lighting. Actually less of a hassle to do that. Personally i don;t really like the warm lighting, it changes the colour perception of everything and you cannot appreciate the correct colours, everything looks yellowish. But in this case, it has set a good atmosphere, like these works were being carried out in a closed hangar or at night. Thanks for the comments.

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    Post  RayCaruana on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:36 am

    Yes Brian, I fully-agree about changing the colour perception. Happy modeling my friend!!! I'm working on "Marco's collectors' item Fokker" vignette at the moment and really enjoying some quality time for myself for once in a while.

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    Re: Two Me 163 komets

    Post  iCocker on Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:39 pm

    I like the idea of a box diorama Brian more, maybe experiment with having some dim LEDs from the sides to illuminate a bit the shadowy areas [mainly under the other Komet], but I like the spot light effect, adds more drama to the story, the wall light washing came great ... one cannot really judge from fotos as boxdios are not fotogenic at all ...

    Prosit!

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