Joint dioramas

If we stick to 1941 were there an MK1 still 'alive'? A tropicalised scheme would look nicer in a winter scene, making a different look then the usual!

1940 is a problematic era as looks like the Italians hibernated for winter and not many attacks were done during the rainy season : )
AFVs have to check but probably Vickers and Bren available, again a pricey business to model as everything is resin ...

Post 1941 I have not much but were the strips given a concrete face or was that done later?


Ivan

So for the Hurricane MKI, I will still have to do the tropical filter?, ok no big deal. What version of Spitfire? and what are the kit possibilities, excluding the Tamiya MKIX?

Still I think I will go for the Hurricane MKI with tropical scheme.

J

[quote="skyhigh"]We can still manage with The MkI , why we are escluding the MKI what's wrong heq ..now its not only the colour scheme even the version mela
Here if you whant I have a photo of a MKI with (Desert scheme)!!

there is even a picture of a mk1, with black undersides (half of I assume)


About my 242sqn hurricane, about the scheme. Since I did not find a picture of the aircraft LE-X in color I had to contend with one in B/W, taken from behind in a rather darkish exposore. The codes and the fact it is a IIC is visible but not the serial number. Doing some reseach, I found an aircraft operated by 242 with the letter X assigned, serial no. BE555, which when I checked the number I found that aircraft in the serial no.s from BE550 - BE570 seen to have been all trop IIc. About the desert scheme or not, again this is is debatable since we need a color pic of the aircraft in question, but one thing has to taken into consderation. No 242sqn and 605sqn were never intended to operate over Malta but were destined to operate over the desert, thus it makes some sense that the aircraft would be finished in the desert scheme, not the temperate scheme. Hope that this clarifies some questions, but to be 100% sure we need a color pic of the aircraft with the serial number, codes, filter, etc... oh if digital cameras were available in the 40s

I don't agree we should opt for 1/48th for the reasons Ivan mentioned, and mostly when it comes to paint the personell a bigger headache for sure! Besides that, the larger scale would be more appealing on all fronts, especially if/when exhibited!

Kemm zdiedlek xoghol Marco

I don't think Joseph would build another Stringbag

I would really like to see the Hurricane MKIIC in that desert scheme in this project, but am afraid that is not up to me after all

Ray

iCocker wrote:If we stick to 1941 were there an MK1 still 'alive'? A tropicalised scheme would look nicer in a winter scene, making a different look then the usual!

1940 is a problematic era as looks like the Italians hibernated for winter and not many attacks were done during the rainy season : )
AFVs have to check but probably Vickers and Bren available, again a pricey business to model as everything is resin ...

Post 1941 I have not much but were the strips given a concrete face or was that done later?


Ivan

Does not matter, aircraft over here would still be bogged down in mud either way. Patrols and scrambles were still conducted, obviously weather permitting.

William wrote:So for the Hurricane MKI, I will still have to do the tropical filter?, ok no big deal. What version of Spitfire? and what are the kit possibilities, excluding the Tamiya MKIX?

Still I think I will go for the Hurricane MKI with tropical scheme.

J

Spitfire mkVb, or Vc, i think they are availabe from revell in some form

FJ, why are you fretting over digicams were not available during WWII? Marco's mind is DEFINITELY COLOUR DIGITAL as he's seeing those BLACK & WHITE PICS in the Battle of Britain colours

Marcoooooooooo, x'nidhak

FJ, welldone to your positive thinking

Ray

Anzi ghadu ma bghatnix nixejru is segritarju........

Kemm gejja bit-tul din id-dio!

Personally I think we should stick to 1/32 -1/35 size. Apart 1/48 would be a headache for finding props this dio needs the human element to be 'alive' so we need a good number of facial expressions. Personally I think are gone the days that the subject is the only key to a good diorama, apart the aircraft and the vehicles the human element and interactivities would be the key to a good plot and story, so nothing is more ideal then a 1/35 with the selection of so many good face expressions by Hornet etc ... ejja lets make this happen!

Issa being a Hurricane Mki or Mk2 a Matilda or a Bren, lets try to keep the period of Winter 1941 see what was still was avialable in the area and in Malta and start rolling ...

Ivan

Ray wrote:FJ, why are you fretting over digicams were not available during WWII? Marco's mind is DEFINITELY COLOUR DIGITAL as he's seeing those BLACK & WHITE PICS in the Battle of Britain colours

Marcoooooooooo, x'nidhak

FJ, welldone to your positive thinking

Ray

good one...............and we have not mentioned the spitfire schemes, imagine then what will happen

iCocker wrote:Kemm gejja bit-tul din id-dio!

Personally I think we should stick to 1/32 -1/35 size. Apart 1/48 would be a headache for finding props this dio needs the human element to be 'alive' so we need a good number of facial expressions. Personally I think are gone the days that the subject is the only key to a good diorama, apart the aircraft and the vehicles the human element and interactivities would be the key to a good plot and story, so nothing is more ideal then a 1/35 with the selection of so many good face expressions by Hornet etc ... ejja lets make this happen!

Issa being a Hurricane Mki or Mk2 a Matilda or a Bren, lets try to keep the period of Winter 1941 see what was still was avialable in the area and in Malta and start rolling ...

Ivan

isma, taf x'jghid il malti, qies mitt darba, u aqta darba, issa ha naqleb ghal l - inglish. I agree about keeping it in the larger scale, it is more impressive and I think easire to work figure/afv.

William wrote:So for the Hurricane MKI, I will still have to do the tropical filter?, ok no big deal. What version of Spitfire? and what are the kit possibilities, excluding the Tamiya MKIX?

Still I think I will go for the Hurricane MKI with tropical scheme.

J

Sorry guys, this was my dad speaking , he was using my profile

I already noticed that, will don't worry

Just found my Hurricane. It is a revell MkIIC, at least that is what the box says, brand new. I will get it with me next Wednesday unless something crops up as it usually does.

Well done Brian ...now we can ohoh !!now they can make a good Tropical MKI with! trop filter well done Brian.. :sunny:

Marco, are there any after market detail sets or resin parts apart from the Eduard PE set, tipo xi' wheels u control surfaces forsi nifranka naqra xoghol

J

I will check

a quick search around the web did not yield any results - no aftermarket sets for the hurricane in 32nd scale. Keep searching, might get lucky.

Just fownd this but for this version only feature fabric wings which isHawker Hurricane Mk 1 in 1/32 scale. The first time ever this version of the famous Hurricane has been produced. This is a complete limited edition, multi-media kit that includes resin, photo-etch, injected plastic, clear injected canopy and windscreen parts, and decals by Cartograph. This kit features the fabric-covered wings of the Mk 1. It includes both the two and three bladed propeller, both types of early exhaust, armored and un-armored windscreen, and two different types of wheels. Decals include markings for Belgium. Finland, Italy, and the RAF. an early MKI

Here is also the Bren Carrier conversion for a Mk1 by Resicast ... http://www.resicast.com/pages/351200pag.html

So rest the dilema if using the new Tamiya Matilda or the tiny bren + conversion ... both AFV would work fine for our job but depends the areas taken but considering how high a Hurricane sits I guess nothing of the two would overshadow and we can still work the diorama in the ideal set up for balancing a pyramid shape ...

By the way any more volunteers for the team?

Ivan

My dad is in the other room working on the Hobbycraft Nie.17 he's asking,"the Hurricane MK.I for the dio is with metal covered wings (as per posted coloured art work)and not with fabric covered wings."

Marco, he also wants to know which company produces the other MK.I and how much does it cost


Wil

iCocker wrote:Here is also the Bren Carrier conversion for a Mk1 by Resicast ... http://www.resicast.com/pages/351200pag.html

So rest the dilema if using the new Tamiya Matilda or the tiny bren + conversion ... both AFV would work fine for our job but depends the areas taken but considering how high a Hurricane sits I guess nothing of the two would overshadow and we can still work the diorama in the ideal set up for balancing a pyramid shape ...

By the way any more volunteers for the team?

Ivan

Ivan, would it be possible to include both AFV's so the idea of a dilemma within the dio (story after all) as to which AFV would eventually pull the Aircraft out of trouble? would be nice to get this feeling IMHO, and also the idea of the Maltese contractor with his karettun and horse, like IZZATTAT jew IPPROVA jizzattat, that his horse is strong enough to carry out the task that everyone is debating between the Bren Carrier and Matilda?

Just a little brainstorming since we settled the availability of the a/m kits thank God Almighty we have at least 2/3rds of the dio sorted out, adding the availability of the basic personell

Do you really think that it would be feasable to include other chefs to spoil the broth

Ray

Will tell your father that this is an early version with fabric wings , Malta Hurricanes were late marks with metal wings...

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Marco, Brian ma qalx li ghandu Hurricane MKII jew qed niblieh jien ?

Ok I know that you answered him with that box art, but is it a MKII or MKI ?

Ray

Heheehee xi pjacir gerfixtu heheheheh xi pjacir

IL mudel ta brian ghalkem fuq il box art jajd li hu MkIIc ,mu xejn hlif il MKI fil verita ..imma nistaw nghamlu minnu MKI b trop filter li fih il kit tajjeb issa