New line of modelling weathering products ...

http://www.ak-interactive.com/

a new company born from the hands of F.Vallejo but already promising material, and looks like same top brass are again behind the ingredients!

Ivan

iCocker wrote:http://www.ak-interactive.com/

a new company born from the hands of F.Vallejo but already promising material, and looks like same top brass are again behind the ingredients!

Ivan

Looks tempting Ivan......however I find it a bit ODD that they reverted to ENAMELS when everything/everyone seems to be going towards the ACRYLICS

The old school is still good and versitile, many still use enemels for weathering effects ... so that might be the idea behind these products!

iCocker wrote:The old school is still good and versitile, many still use enemels for weathering effects ... so that might be the idea behind these products!

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH IVAN HERE TAKE A LOOK AT MARIO ENS's award winning masterpeices. this guy has no predilection for any single style he adapts and adopts to his whims

Can i ask a simple question? Necessity forces me to look for acrylic paints. Which is the way to go, Andrea or Vallejo? And where do you guys order yours from?

bcauchi wrote:Can i ask a simple question? Necessity forces me to look for acrylic paints. Which is the way to go, Andrea or Vallejo? And where do you guys order yours from?

If for painting models first preference for me remain Tamiya or Gunze Sangyo [which are not proper acrylics and neither enemels], they are the best for airbrush with the proper mixer. Then next in line is Lifecolour [excellent range for RAL and FS colours], then Valleya Air or Andrea.

If for brushwork bought Vallejo and Andrea are very good, though i prefer Andrea as pigment is matt. Though again Valleja have a vaster range of colour spectrum and choice. IMHO, then it's up to once preferance

Thanks Ivan for widening the range even more. Where do you get yours from? and what do you use as thinner that is the question i am asking myself so much.

From ebay, Luckymodels and when I am abroad and find some ... that is thanks to our local Tamiya rapresentative!


For Tamiya I use isopro alcahol and Tamiya Laquer thinner [yellow cap].


Hope it helps mate, I will assure you that when you get hold of and the smell you get addictive and will foget enemels for spraying


Forgot, Lifecolours with water, from UK you can get them from http://www.airbrushes.com/

iCocker wrote:From ebay, Luckymodels and when I am abroad and find some ... that is thanks to our local Tamiya rapresentative!


For Tamiya I use isopro alcahol and Tamiya Laquer thinner [yellow cap].


Hope it helps mate, I will assure you that when you get hold of and the smell you get addictive and will foget enemels for spraying


Forgot, Lifecolours with water, from UK you can get them from http://www.airbrushes.com/

ivan and brian this guy stocks lifecolour thinner in 250ml which is ideal for the paints and as me and tankred already know he is very reliable

http://www.jbmodel.eu/

Thanks guys i guess it is now just up to me to choose and order what i need. Thanks again. Brian

For WWI I use MisterKit acrylics thinned with alcohol, also he stocks a very good range of WWII colours.

This is the site and yes the smell is so sweet that it is adictive.

http://www.misterkit.com/catalog/index.php

I got used to Vallejo Air , but there is no smell to get addicted to and I get them from http://snmstuff.co.uk/default.aspx. They are diluted with their own Model Air thinner. For weathering apart from Mig products I've also used the Lifecolor Tensocrom and found them very good!

Thanks to ALL for the valuable info.....absorbing everything at the moment since as I said on the Butterfly Princess' thread I have not sprayed since the other life and everything is NEW to me

Re Vallejo Air, on the Snmstuff website, they say that they are READY to USE from the bottle, and if need be, could be diluted a bit more with water, so, I did not order any thinner YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE OR ???????

Without any smell ??????? That is the first let down since there are OPTIONS for that intoxicating smell

Julio (again pronounced Hulio as Sammy would shoot us ALL) Cabos mixes the Andrea (normal colours) with 60% water and 40% Gunze Sagno thinner

Anyway, as I said, this is ALL NEW to ME, as if I was on board a spaceship bound for Mars and suddenly I pulled the bell (bhal tal-linja) and I got spit out on earth MA NAFX X'LAQATNI

Ray wrote:Thanks to ALL for the valuable info.....absorbing everything at the moment since as I said on the Butterfly Princess' thread I have not sprayed since the other life and everything is NEW to me

Re Vallejo Air, on the Snmstuff website, they say that they are READY to USE from the bottle, and if need be, could be diluted a bit more with water, so, I did not order any thinner YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE OR ???????

Without any smell ??????? That is the first let down since there are OPTIONS for that intoxicating smell

Julio (again pronounced Hulio as Sammy would shoot us ALL) Cabos mixes the Andrea (normal colours) with 60% water and 40% Gunze Sagno thinner

Anyway, as I said, this is ALL NEW to ME, as if I was on board a spaceship bound for Mars and suddenly I pulled the bell (bhal tal-linja) and I got spit out on earth MA NAFX X'LAQATNI

ray i do have valejo thinner which i do not use just in case you need it

remember ray when the time comes you will have to pay the ferryman
sakemm ma nerquhiex id daghjsa jien u int

The problem with acrylic and lacquer thinner remains the consistency of thinning. Water and compressor air helps the process to be faster which can benefit in clogging in the brush head area and worst it can back fires. To solve this you have to add some alcohol or lacquer thinner. Apart it thins the pigmenet to a very smooth finish, and benefit to work in very low pressure to achieve thin lines. The problem remains that Vallejo does not adhere that much to alcohol and have to work more with water, so again having a sauna ambience and humid over 90 spraying in summer is a nightmare! It is news to me that thinners are mixed with Andreas, and if J.Cabo use it so it's good : )

alex wrote:

Ray wrote:Thanks to ALL for the valuable info.....absorbing everything at the moment since as I said on the Butterfly Princess' thread I have not sprayed since the other life and everything is NEW to me

Re Vallejo Air, on the Snmstuff website, they say that they are READY to USE from the bottle, and if need be, could be diluted a bit more with water, so, I did not order any thinner YOU THINK I SHOULD HAVE OR ???????

Without any smell ??????? That is the first let down since there are OPTIONS for that intoxicating smell

Julio (again pronounced Hulio as Sammy would shoot us ALL) Cabos mixes the Andrea (normal colours) with 60% water and 40% Gunze Sagno thinner

Anyway, as I said, this is ALL NEW to ME, as if I was on board a spaceship bound for Mars and suddenly I pulled the bell (bhal tal-linja) and I got spit out on earth MA NAFX X'LAQATNI

ray i do have valejo thinner which i do not use just in case you need it

remember ray when the time comes you will have to pay the ferryman
sakemm ma nerquhiex id daghjsa jien u int

Alex, you;re an ANGEL

I intend to use NORMAL Vallejo's using their thinner and see what is the outcome so please if you're coming tomorrow bring it over Mr.Ferryman

I also plan to try it out with Andrea's what the heck if Gunze's thinner which I presume is for acrylics as used by Julio Cabos, works with Andrea's, why does Vallejo thinner should not

We'll wait and see

Still waiting for the Vallejo Air to arrive and compressor to be mounted and spray painted (by me)

Gunzo thinner is lacquer based, Vallejo is not ... so it is very strange that Cabos use that to mix ... we need to experiment. On the other hand Vallejo's is specially maid for their pigment so it should work fine. Checking on their catalogue it is meant for their Air range, so if using normal Vallejo, thin them very well.

Ivan