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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:39 am

    Bomba Joseph ,well we work on a MKIIC now... cheers
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    Post  Joseph Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:44 am

    Yesssssssssssssss, a MKIIC its gona be Very Happy Very Happy

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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:56 am

    Ok then lets work! scratch study
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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:06 am

    Well Joe lets start with what we really have in hand , look good at the nose the colours are diferent , I have another pic of other aircraft with the same strange colours I'll post it latJoint dioramas - Page 10 Le-s11er..Joint dioramas - Page 10 R11
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    Post  RayCaruana Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:50 am

    J.Fenech wrote:
    alex wrote:
    Ray wrote:Ha nikser il-wedgha tas-silenzju Sad Laughing

    PROSIT Marco cheers

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    im sure that for you breaking the vow of silence was not at all difficult
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    Naqbel Twisted Evil Twisted Evil lol! lol!

    Ma' kelli l-ebda dubju! L'anqas one cent ma' kont lest nilghab fuq dan il-vow of silence!!!! IMMA MA' JINPURTAX, IKTEB KEMM TIFLAH PULIZZJOTT GHAX B'HEKK JIBQA ATTIV DAL-FORUM LI IRNEXXILU JAQQADDNA AKTAR MINN QATT QABEL:cheers:
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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:52 pm

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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:27 pm

    Ara dan ghaJoint dioramas - Page 10 00110ndu nose listes misbuh stramba hu!
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    Post  Ray Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:14 pm

    Camo naqa stramb ghax qisu minn wara l-cockpit KULUR wiehed hux u bla serial numbers jew qed nara hazin persess li f'mohhi m'ghandix colour digicam bhal tieghek Marco Sad Laughing

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    Post  skyhigh Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:19 pm

    Ray I think you did not understand what I'm trying to say....

    look at the nose of both photos they look with nose desert colours and the reminder in the old colours.. Question scratch cheers
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    Post  Ray Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:40 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Ray I think you did not understand what I'm trying to say....

    look at the nose of both photos they look with nose desert colours and the reminder in the old colours.. Question scratch cheers

    Vow of Silence again re Colours cheers Sad

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    Post  RayCaruana Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:06 pm

    Ray wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Ray I think you did not understand what I'm trying to say....

    look at the nose of both photos they look with nose desert colours and the reminder in the old colours.. Question scratch cheers

    Vow of Silence again re Colours cheers Sad

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    Another 5 minutes of silence mela, the time to go to the loo and bye bye vow lol!


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    Post  Guest Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:08 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Ray I think you did not understand what I'm trying to say....

    look at the nose of both photos they look with nose desert colours and the reminder in the old colours.. Question scratch cheers


    I think it is something related to pic quality/processing. The front part clearly show that it is a mkIIc trop Suspect ,as I can see the trop filter What a Face Evil or Very Mad . The underside color of the nose is definitly not a light color but possibly azure blue or something similar (now I am seeing in color What a Face ) Even the colors of the fuel tanks is different, therefore I deduce that it is something related to the picture

    And the saga continues................... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



    p.s. - I realy doubt that this hurricane is finished in 3 - 4 tone topside color, especially since it was recently delivered Shocked
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    Post  Joseph Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:19 pm

    I think, and IMHO, that both aircraft are finished in tropical colours, especially first pic, the other patches and different colours are all related to the reproduction/quality of photos.

    We still can coninue researching topic, maybe something more reliable will pop up, but I am very happy with pics as these show a lot.

    I wait for items to arrive to start detailing/conversion Sad Sad and scribing Sad Sad

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    Post  Ray Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:40 am

    J.Fenech wrote:
    skyhigh wrote:Ray I think you did not understand what I'm trying to say....

    look at the nose of both photos they look with nose desert colours and the reminder in the old colours.. Question scratch cheers


    I think it is something related to pic quality/processing. The front part clearly show that it is a mkIIc trop Suspect ,as I can see the trop filter What a Face Evil or Very Mad . The underside color of the nose is definitly not a light color but possibly azure blue or something similar (now I am seeing in color What a Face ) Even the colors of the fuel tanks is different, therefore I deduce that it is something related to the picture

    And the saga continues................... Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


    p.s. - I realy doubt that this hurricane is finished in 3 - 4 tone topside color, especially since it was recently delivered Shocked

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    Thank You JF for making me break my loooooooong vow of silence Twisted Evil

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    Post  Ray Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:51 am

    Joseph wrote:I think, and IMHO, that both aircraft are finished in tropical colours, especially first pic, the other patches and different colours are all related to the reproduction/quality of photos.

    We still can coninue researching topic, maybe something more reliable will pop up, but I am very happy with pics as these show a lot.

    I wait for items to arrive to start detailing/conversion Sad Sad and scribing Sad Sad

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    Post  alexbb Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:48 am

    RAY
    i just hijacked this topic for a short while
    your vow of silence has dropped your percentage in posts so stop this nonsense and get back to normal your percentage rates should be between 20 and 25%
    SACRIFICE YOURSELF FOR THE SAKE OF THE SSM FORUM
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    Post  Ray Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:55 pm

    alex wrote:RAY
    i just hijacked this topic for a short while
    your vow of silence has dropped your percentage in posts so stop this nonsense and get back to normal your percentage rates should be between 20 and 25%
    SACRIFICE YOURSELF FOR THE SAKE OF THE SSM FORUM
    lol! lol! lol! lol!

    Mamma Mia x'inkwiet Sad mela to what percentage my postings dropped Sad ? Believe me i've never checked that kind of stastistics before anywhere Sad

    I just check on Ivan to make sure he's far behund Cool and voila.....I keep walking on without looking back bounce

    Now that JF and Joseph are seeing Tropical camo as well (but why do i doubt God's Infinty at times why? Sad ) its bye bye vow of silence on this topic and I can see that skyhigh is seeming subdued somehow somewhat Twisted Evil

    I bet a dime that he's deep in his books study scratch to try and proove us WRONG study scratch

    It would be MUCH BETTER to scribe a panel line or two then copy and paste TEXT which I bet another dime, no one cared ro read so far Sad

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    Post  bcauchi Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:45 pm

    Jien naqbel ma Marco. There is something strange in these schemes. The nose for both aircraft is markedly lighter with highly feathered darker camo and the rest of the plane shows hardly any contrast at all. Something very unusual about these schemes, they are not consistent throughout the aircraft.
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:47 pm

    Also, the underside of the first hurricane standing on the nose is very probably light blue sky whilst the one on the second plane is much darker, azure blue.
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:49 pm

    Isma, the dark colour on the nose of the second hurricane might be something that came out of the engine, note that it seems to be coming out of that hole in the side panel on the nose.
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    Post  iCocker Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:33 pm

    I think Brian was spot on, though very difficult to confirm BW to colour but there is a way using Photoshop to check channels and hues in the image.

    So from my test I took the hues of the colours which we are sure of the roundel, so considering the centre is read the next hue similar is the nose, and as I am assuming that propellers are black the hue of the nose is nothing near, so my guess is red.

    The stange dark colour Brian spotted for me is stain, notice there is no hard edge paint scheme and no solid areas, what is misleading is that there are spots on the forewing but notice that stain goes under the wing as well, so probably it is also some oilstains on the wing near the MG areas.

    The underside is a difficult colour put hues are strong in the Cyan and Magenta channel, and that mix is more near to a bluish hue so your guess of Azure might be probable.

    Notice as well that 'fuel tanks' are a different hue in both but that could be reflections as well ...

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    Post  Ray Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:35 pm

    Lovely THREE POSTS LIKE PARAGRAPHS Brian with TWO MINUTE INTERVALS lol!

    Well, if you don't do them like that you'll never catch me lol!

    Anyway ALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX vow of silence again re COLOURS Sad

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    Post  skyhigh Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:57 pm

    Xiiiiiii Pjjjaaaccciiirrr topic fuq il colours ...
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    Post  bcauchi Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:56 am

    Ray, it was not my idea to raise the amount of posts. I posted a comment and then went back to the photos and noticed something else so i posted again and so on but coming to think of it, it is not a bad tactic. A good alternative to asking Alex kemm fadal.

    Ivan, do not judge underside colours from the external tanks, those were used for convenience and to serve a particular purpose, they could have been sourced from anywhere and did not come out of the factory with the aircraft, so they could have been any other colour. i still feel that the underside of the first hurri is light blue sky whilst the second, is in my opinion, azure blue. As for the nose, it is definitely lighter than the rest of the fuselage and that is no light trick or condition.
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    Post  iCocker Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:29 am

    Yep Brian that is why I hinted about the fuel tanks, definetly they are from different source and nothing near the underside colour. Might be that bought fuel tanks are different colours as the hue is so contrasting and is not because of shadowing.

    Regarding the nose, it is a strange colour, black for sure it is not, but hue is very strong in the same channel as the red roundel colour. Infact if you pic any pixels they are almost similar. I might not agree with you though that it is lighter then the fuselage, if considering that fuselage is a desert colour and picking up colour is around 60% or less grey the nose is a more 80% and very similar grey to the red roundel, can't be sure that it is a red colour but looks that for sure it is not a light sand ... but again BW are very disgutible to justify the colour!

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