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While working on the Inquisition's diorama, I decided to start work on a small vignette, hopefully to be finished for HIS 2011. It will be depicting an armourer's workshop complete with forge and a young apprentice blowing the bellows. As usual, all your input is appreciated. Faqqawli please!!
This is the initial idea...
This is the initial idea...
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I can add another figure too...More visual balance IMO. What do you think? Ivan where are you sabih?
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Interesting stuff Ray, I would keep the third figure.
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This cool my friend I love these small scenes, lately with a friend of mine we are doing a lot of research about medieval Malta, and guess what we are getting some interesting material, Malta was not so 'bare' before the Hospitallers came as the old historians made us believe ... this can be easily be replicated as a small blacksmith for the Universita of Mdina or much better working for the castellans of il Borgo [Birgu] ... great idea my friend, you can play with lighting effects for this ... keep the man on the anvil, what might be interesting is adding a merchant man [maybe with his lady or servant] dressed in rich civilian clothes overseeing his work being done ...
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Thanks Ivan and Tancred for your comments and ideas! I am tempted to add more figures such as a prostitute flirting with the men or as you suggested a couple, with the husband asking for a chastity belt:-) Check the civilians set VA107 by valdemar, hereunfortunately they are in metal, but I wrote to Jens, maybe he has them in resin too.
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I was in Gozo last Monday and went to Ggantija & il-Mithna.....the bellows over there are a bit larger
It would make an interesting local setting like Ivan hinted, however your "panache" insertion would live up to your & most of our masochist expectations
It would make an interesting local setting like Ivan hinted, however your "panache" insertion would live up to your & most of our masochist expectations
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Good one RayC a very good idea! Hope he has them in resin as they look much finer in detail ...
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No reply from Jens of valdemar miniatures yet ...Will have to wait a bit more In the meantime I redone the wall with MS because I wanted a more "rubbley" looking wall than the one I casted for the castle (as seen in the initial photos). If I add more figures to the scene the base will naturally have to be bigger and so will need to extend the wall.
RayF., regarding the size of the bellows, I did some research and seems that there were various sizes. I even watched Kingdom of Heaven DVD and confirmed that Orlando Bloom has a medium sized one like mine
RayF., regarding the size of the bellows, I did some research and seems that there were various sizes. I even watched Kingdom of Heaven DVD and confirmed that Orlando Bloom has a medium sized one like mine
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RayCaruana wrote:No reply from Jens of valdemar miniatures yet ...Will have to wait a bit more In the meantime I redone the wall with MS because I wanted a more "rubbley" looking wall than the one I casted for the castle (as seen in the initial photos). If I add more figures to the scene the base will naturally have to be bigger and so will need to extend the wall.
RayF., regarding the size of the bellows, I did some research and seems that there were various sizes. I even watched Kingdom of Heaven DVD and confirmed that Orlando Bloom has a medium sized one like mine
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Orlando's bellows...
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I'm sure this will great. I would keep the third figure too since it adds to more balance.Especially since the other two are on one side
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Love your stuff Ray, i would go for 3 figures but not more. Just my opinion, two is too little, three is just right.
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Simply great, as the others said, I would keep the 3rd figure.
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Good idea for a small diorama!
An odd number is always safe in any display, be it in a painting (for example painting a flight of ducks it's important to put an odd number 7, 5 or 9) or in our little dioramas.
An odd number is always safe in any display, be it in a painting (for example painting a flight of ducks it's important to put an odd number 7, 5 or 9) or in our little dioramas.
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"Make her a belt!!"
A trip to the clubhouse last Wednesday, a chat with Ivan and the other figure nuts and whole idea was changed to this small scene...
The figures are a mix from 3 sets from Valdemar's range and the wall scratchbuilt using MS. It tells the story (or at least I hope!) of a crusader taking (with force) his wife or mistress to the blacksmith for a chastity belt before he leaves for the Holy Land.
The figures are a mix from 3 sets from Valdemar's range and the wall scratchbuilt using MS. It tells the story (or at least I hope!) of a crusader taking (with force) his wife or mistress to the blacksmith for a chastity belt before he leaves for the Holy Land.
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Great idea Ray, i love the scene
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RayC, the story is unfolding mate, now that I am seeing everything without bases and inplace my only 'critisim' due that everything is in even numbers it looks 'too' balanced and rigid. I think IMHO adding another figure or further implements like a table with the ready made castity belt on it and maybe that grumpy lady with hand on hips you had, making her behind the table awaiting to help try on the gadget would make the centre piece better, probably the armour have to move aside and maybe make the angle as he was first time around but on the boy's side this time ... you have to try out mate, but odd numbers make better balancing ...
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iCocker wrote:RayC, the story is unfolding mate, now that I am seeing everything without bases and inplace my only 'critisim' due that everything is in even numbers it looks 'too' balanced and rigid. I think IMHO adding another figure or further implements like a table with the ready made castity belt on it and maybe that grumpy lady with hand on hips you had, making her behind the table awaiting to help try on the gadget would make the centre piece better, probably the armour have to move aside and maybe make the angle as he was first time around but on the boy's side this time ... you have to try out mate, but odd numbers make better balancing ...
Yes I thought about the even numbers thing too, but couldn't find a figure that would fit the scenr. Yes I will try the grunpy old lady. I will position her instead of the stool behind the smithy as if she's his wife looking at the knight in disapproval.
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Odd number mate as Noel, Ivan, Stephen & everyone is suggesting
The grumpy lady with hands on hips Ivan is suggesting near the ready made chastity belt, would further enhance your idea that is, she (the grumpy cow) is beaming with pleasure that this beautiful girl would have her SEALED off & can't have that pleasure which has eluded her (the grumpy cow again) quite a while ago due to her ugliness
The grumpy lady with hands on hips Ivan is suggesting near the ready made chastity belt, would further enhance your idea that is, she (the grumpy cow) is beaming with pleasure that this beautiful girl would have her SEALED off & can't have that pleasure which has eluded her (the grumpy cow again) quite a while ago due to her ugliness
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we posted together
Contrasting ideas
As Sammy says......Whatever
They both (the ideas) work perfectly IMHO
Contrasting ideas
As Sammy says......Whatever
They both (the ideas) work perfectly IMHO
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great work ray, simply love both your peices
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Grumpy old smithy's wife added to the scene. What do you think?
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What do you think guys? Better now?
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Yes I think it looks just right IMHO because you were leaving too much open space before.
I would also add that table which Ivan suggested plus I would also show the chastity belt, ready made on the table near the fat grumpy cow, so that the viewer would understand more of what is going on when he looks at the caption
Just my 2c worth mate
I would also add that table which Ivan suggested plus I would also show the chastity belt, ready made on the table near the fat grumpy cow, so that the viewer would understand more of what is going on when he looks at the caption
Just my 2c worth mate
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Much better, would continue on Ray's point, I would swop the armourer with the old hag, add a table with a couple of chastity belts in different sizes, getting the element centrally and an idea of a shop/seller and keeping the guildmaster continuing his job ...