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    Post  skyhigh Sun May 01, 2011 9:31 am

    This turned out stunning Ray , welldone... cheers
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    Post  Ray Sun May 01, 2011 11:04 am

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    Post  bcauchi Sun May 01, 2011 3:18 pm

    Ray, Excellent work indeed. That is truly beautiful, i think it is your best work so far given the size of it. Looking forward to seeing more progress.
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    Post  iCocker Sun May 01, 2011 6:30 pm

    Great progress my friend but shall I give my thought as this gonna be a ciaro scuro atmosphere why not add more drama with deeper shadows especially at the lower parts to create a directional light effect and overhead lighting?
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    Post  RayCaruana Sun May 01, 2011 7:30 pm

    iCocker wrote:Great progress my friend but shall I give my thought as this gonna be a ciaro scuro atmosphere why not add more drama with deeper shadows especially at the lower parts to create a directional light effect and overhead lighting?

    You mean on the figures too? If yes, I'm tempted but will need a lot of guidance as I never tried it. I saw it a number of times and drooled at the effect, but never had to guts to put t in practice on my work.
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    Post  iCocker Sun May 01, 2011 7:48 pm

    Yep figures too ... I think no need to concentrate with the red light effect from the forge but some deeper shadows on the lower parts might add the drama more ... remember the scale of these minis, so adding more contrast will elevate more the effect IMHO ...

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    Post  RayCaruana Sun May 01, 2011 7:55 pm

    I will bring the dio and figures with me to the club and discuss in some detail if you don't mind.
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    Post  iCocker Sun May 01, 2011 8:21 pm

    This week I am not coming over as I am in the midst of preparation for next week Medieval Mdina, but surely many others can give you hints ... hope t see you soon!

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    Post  RayCaruana Sun May 01, 2011 9:06 pm

    iCocker wrote:This week I am not coming over, but surely many others can give you hints

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    Post  RayCaruana Mon May 30, 2011 11:39 pm

    The armourer's wife and the anvil. Pardon my photography please:-( I need to "dirty up" the dress with some black pigment later on. Hope to bring it with me on Wednesday for your scrutiny Shocked

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    Post  Ray Tue May 31, 2011 7:18 am

    I'll bring them on don't worry Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

    Looking really good the wifey rendeer
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    Post  iCocker Tue May 31, 2011 8:42 am

    I like it mate ... love that touch of colour and that enerald green is very medieval ... prosit!

    As for weathering I would avod pigments in that scale, I would rather work with glazes of oil paint or enemels to have more control of the weathering, apart if it go bad you can easily remove, black pigment there is no turning point but to start allover again!

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    Post  in nannu pec Tue May 31, 2011 9:01 am

    Proset Ray...and when you even start to think that it's such a small scale.....well done brother I like the soot on the chimney brick...and husband !! he has the looks of an arrogant sadistic pig lol! lol! lol! lol!
    keep them coming Ray....another addition to our expos...small scale dioramas...
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    Post  iCocker Tue May 31, 2011 10:29 am

    RayC, re-checking again the pics, I noticed the bull head on the wall,a nice touch but I am in doubt about the idea, apart it is more an Itlian symbol - corno. Though medieval society was very superstitous I am not sure if the horns were used in the period, probably were associated to the opposite and magic. Check some references mate, internet might help ...
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    Post  RayCaruana Tue May 31, 2011 12:18 pm

    iCocker wrote:RayC, re-checking again the pics, I noticed the bull head on the wall,a nice touch but I am in doubt about the idea, apart it is more an Itlian symbol - corno. Though medieval society was very superstitous I am not sure if the horns were used in the period, probably were associated to the opposite and magic. Check some references mate, internet might help ...

    Yes Ivan, the idea about a trophy on the wall came from a discussion I had at the club with David, to be exact he suggested a boar's head not an Ox (I 'm refering to the English word here ok pale ). I made an Ox head because I had one in another set. Would a bear head be a better compromise? Because I have one in the gladiator set.
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    Post  bcauchi Tue May 31, 2011 5:33 pm

    Aw Ray, better late than never jghidu, sorry for not commenting earlier but i did not see this. Tal genn!!! It looks really good and your paintwork is brilliant. Given the small size of the figures they look really great. Any mistake would have been accentuated in the photos and they look really good. Fantastic!!
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    Post  RayCaruana Tue May 31, 2011 10:59 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Aw Ray, better late than never jghidu, sorry for not commenting earlier but i did not see this. Tal genn!!! It looks really good and your paintwork is brilliant. Given the small size of the figures they look really great. Any mistake would have been accentuated in the photos and they look really good. Fantastic!!

    Thanks Brian. But, I'm sure there's always something that needs to be corrected, that;s why I'll be bringing it with me again tomorrow. You guys are HAWKS Twisted Evil That's why I love you I love you
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    Post  Samwel18 Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:50 am

    Ray C try some graphite from a pencil....i read about it in cartacci's book if you want I can bring it with me tomorrow to see it Wink

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    Post  iCocker Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:02 pm

    RayCaruana wrote:
    iCocker wrote:RayC, re-checking again the pics, I noticed the bull head on the wall,a nice touch but I am in doubt about the idea, apart it is more an Itlian symbol - corno. Though medieval society was very superstitous I am not sure if the horns were used in the period, probably were associated to the opposite and magic. Check some references mate, internet might help ...

    Yes Ivan, the idea about a trophy on the wall came from a discussion I had at the club with David, to be exact he suggested a boar's head not an Ox (I 'm refering to the English word here ok pale ). I made an Ox head because I had one in another set. Would a bear head be a better compromise? Because I have one in the gladiator set.

    Not to spoil the idea but a trophy [stuffed head] in an armourer's shop is a bit off IMO, first because sport hunting was a pastime meant only to the rich, and I have my doubt about trophieson walls at the period ... remember at the period everything counted as food for a lower class that meant something less from the plate ...
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    Post  RayCaruana Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:19 pm

    Samwel18 wrote:Ray C try some graphite from a pencil....i read about it in cartacci's book if you want I can bring it with me tomorrow to see it Wink

    Warmest Regards,

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    Thanks Sam but I'm going to use carbon powder like I used on the chimney.
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    Post  RayCaruana Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:21 pm

    iCocker wrote:
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    iCocker wrote:RayC, re-checking again the pics, I noticed the bull head on the wall,a nice touch but I am in doubt about the idea, apart it is more an Itlian symbol - corno. Though medieval society was very superstitous I am not sure if the horns were used in the period, probably were associated to the opposite and magic. Check some references mate, internet might help ...

    Yes Ivan, the idea about a trophy on the wall came from a discussion I had at the club with David, to be exact he suggested a boar's head not an Ox (I 'm refering to the English word here ok pale ). I made an Ox head because I had one in another set. Would a bear head be a better compromise? Because I have one in the gladiator set.

    Not to spoil the idea but a trophy [stuffed head] in an armourer's shop is a bit off IMO, first because sport hunting was a pastime meant only to the rich, and I have my doubt about trophieson walls at the period ... remember at the period everything counted as food for a lower class that meant something less from the plate ...

    Yes Ivan I think you have a point mate. I'm thinking of trashing the idea and try to find something else to fill the space on the wall.
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    Post  iCocker Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:52 am

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    It's an armour shop, so maybe something he created would do the part, I agree need something to fill the wall, something not over the top to attract the eye but just a filler, maybe some hardware he would be creating, pots, chains, swords or bucklers ... or study again Kingdom of Heaven see what they dressed the room with ...

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    Post  Guest Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:57 am

    Sorry for late post, but it looks very nice, well done cheers . As Ivan said, they would have eaten the head as well not hanging it up!!

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