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    Post  Maxi_Model on Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:44 pm

    Hi Again,

    Here is my second model, so far I'm still sticking to cheap models, since the first one did not come out as expected, so instead of ruining a very good and expensive model, I decided to go for another cheap one.

    The model is a Tamiya 35020 Hanomag Sdkfz 251/1
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    I was thinking of painting it like this
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    Any suggestions before purchasing the paint.....

    I would also like to find some internal photos for the details, but I couldn't find much, maybe I was looking in the wrong places...
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:49 pm

    OK, so while assembling this model an idea came to my mind, I wanted to experiment a little on wrecks and destroyed vehicles, but I did not want to waste a model, not even if its a cheap one. So I decided to try and create one myself, simple, with not much details which will be half burried in rubble, showing some of its upper structure, where I will try the metal and rusting techniques I'm practicing.

    These are a few photos of the copied halftrack I'm trying to scratch build, I'm new in this field but wanted to give it a try, if it goes wrong, it won't matter much since it will still be a wreck.

    First cuttings
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    starting to assemble
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    this is teh progress so far, I will add some more of its body, like floor and front grill, then the doors and hatches and to avoid making the wheels and tracks, I will burry that part under the rubble.

    At this point I'm trying to find out how to add the bolts and rivets, I looked for a couple of tutorials, and mostly were to cur some stretched spru into tiny pieces, but I noticed that these won't be the same size since they are hand cut, this will also apply to round rods, unless there is an inexpensive scale cutter which I donno about. I also saw the punch and die set, but the prices were mostly over 50 euros which I found a bit expensive for a couple of holes and some punches (which i doubt they will be hardened. The other thing I found out were the rivet transfers, but again, I don't think they will look authentic since they will be flat and also the price is pretty high for a small sheet.


    Any more ideas or suggestions?

    Thanks........
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    Post  Guest on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:24 am

    Nice scratchbuilding, really like it!
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    Post  in nannu pec on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:34 am

    like like like !!!!
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    Post  bcauchi on Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:18 pm

    Amazing work, it is really looking good. Well done, looking forward to this.
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:59 pm

    Thanks for your comments, as already explained this scratch built will be part of a small diorama, and will be a wreck, and to avoid making wheels and tracks I will burry the lower half of this vehicle and also put some rubble inside it as it a building collapsed over it. I do not have extra wheels or tracks and donno how to make them, so that's why I will burry it.


    the most important thing I'm looking for at the moment is rivets Razz
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    Post  alexbb on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:32 pm

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    Post  Maxi_Model on Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:46 pm

    AWESOME!!!
    Thanks
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:18 pm

    here I am again with a very little progress on this model.

    In the little time I had, I managed to close the front part, added the inner floor, which needs a little more detailing (I wish to make is a diamond pattern steel floor), made the front hatches and back doors.
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    I also tried to add some rivets, but I gave up as they were not getting the same size when I cut them and so I stopped till I try the tool Alex suggested Very Happy
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:49 pm

    So far I'm still trying to make this tool to punch out the rivets (when I find some time ) but now I came across another hurdle which to most of you is easy, to me its still a new world.

    I want to create some parts and for this I guess I will need to cast in resin. Any suggestions for resin packs with casting material, purchase local or from abroad?

    I the mean time I tried my own experiments and here are the horrible results Razz

    These were made with play dough and hot glue gun, what came through my mind at that time.

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    As worn tyres they don't look that bad, but the hub/rim looks hopeless, anyway this will be destined for a wreck, so covered with some rubble they might also work.
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:41 pm

    Is there anyone that can tell me if I can find locally, resin packs with casting material? I would like to use resin to make some parts.

    In the meantime, till I wait for my mind to decide what to do for the rivets, I decided to work on something else so the work won't come to a halt. But it seems that everything I start touching regarding details, have to come to a halt.

    I started working on the interior, not that I am going to detail it much, but I wasnted to give it some.

    I started with the non slip floor plate which I moulded directly on the plasticard and then switched to the benches , I wanted to put some worn leather cushioning, even though this will be a wreck leather can take time before it completely disintegrates.

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    I started with the following, but some commented it looks like a chocolate bar Smile

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    then someone else told me they look like flat sausages
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    then I tried to lighten them a little, so far I got no comments on these, but still expecting some.
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    I now got puzzled and cannot understand what is wrong, if the shap, the colour or both.......

    Any help in creating leather seating (mostly worn) would be appriciated..

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    Post  Dottore on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:04 am

    Unlike the figgy painters...but I believe the best leather effect is obtained using oils...it gives that unique sheen leather has....

    Just a pointer...

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    Post  Maxi_Model on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:21 am

    that is oil paint I used, maybe its the way that I applied it that's wrong?
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    Post  bcauchi on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:59 pm

    Just my 2 cents worth, i think you got the shape right but those are not the correct colours to use for leather. Besides, would those seats have been in leather or a covering like canvas? I doubt whether leather woudl have been used for those seats, more like a canvas covering.
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:48 pm

    by canvas you mean the impermiable material or the strong pourous bag material?

    Also I found a couple of photos which show them as leather, that's why I made them like so. could be they were restored or something, since I also found photots with wooden benches

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    And from what I know leather is more fire & weather resistant then canvas
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    Post  bcauchi on Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:51 pm

    I had something khaki coloured in mind but those photos you put up show leather. I would go for that seeing those photos. Then you do have the wrong colours for leather. you need a good leather mix using oils. If you don;t have one just let us know and we shall give you one.
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:59 pm

    actually I do not have Razz my oils colour range is limited to only these

    Burnt Sienna
    Burnt Umber
    Raw Siena
    Raw Umber
    Indian Red
    White
    Black

    That is all I got (as for Oils)

    Can you please help

    The ones I painted I did them with the following procedure.
    1. painted them with acrylic TAN
    2. brushed them with burnt umber and after some minutes I removed the excess paint
    3. brushed up some highlights for worn edges
    4. gave them a thin coat of white and raw sienna for aging

    Thanks for your help
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    Post  iCocker on Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:20 am

    What you need to add to your mix is lynseed oil [Winsor and Newton has]... this gives a natural shine to the oil, do not bake the paint just let it air dry [bhalissa dan ir-rih iswel tiehu aktar min 3 ijiem]. Finally you'll get a semigloss finish, just note that ware and tear is better done in acrylics as normally that is matt ... hope it helps : )

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    Post  Maxi_Model on Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:12 pm

    OK this helps for sure, but is there any colour in particular to use with the lynseed oil to produce the leather colouring?
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    Post  iCocker on Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:47 am

    Depends what coloured leather you are doing but the oil mixes with everything, I recommend Burnt Umber, Burnt Sienna, Van Dyke Brown, Ivory Black, Yellow Ochre, Juane Brilliant ... avoid whites to distress leather, use a flesh mix or ochres ... hope it helps.

    For undercoats I like also acrylic flesh tints or ochres ...

    This is an article I had done for Military Modelling Magazine http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/natural-leather/4546

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    Post  Maxi_Model on Sun Oct 07, 2012 6:56 am

    Till I work a good finish for the leather seats, I am continuing the details on teh model itself (very slowly), I'm now working on adding rivets and I tried many ways, but so far the one that worked most for me was slicing a 0.5mm rod, I am trying to do a punch and die myself, since punching plasticard gets a more uniform result, I checked over the internet for the punch and die sets and they are not cheap..!!!

    I'm also trying to find a way to make some hinges for doors and hatches, can anyone suggest some method, I'm a beginner not a pro, so be gentle Razz

    This is the result so far

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    LOL I am building a model from scratch, when I haven't yet mastered building a boxed model Razz
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    Post  bcauchi on Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:37 pm

    I think you are doing a fantastic job of it too! Keep it up.
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    Post  Ray on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:49 pm

    Great work so far & remember that "Who Dares Wins" cheers

    May I suggest downsizing your pics before you post them, so that all the pic fits in the screen please pale Embarassed
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:45 pm

    what's the max resolution I can post? 800 x 600?
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    Post  Maxi_Model on Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:27 pm

    Can anyone advise if I can find good 2 part resin for casting in local shops? if yes where and what brand.


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