I believe most of you already saw this kit when I got it at the club. While it was there, some members made me notice how the yellow bands on the leading edge of the wing where too "new" when compared to the remaining part of the body. So these past 2 days, I spent some time fixing it (masked the area, sprayed aluminium, applied salt, then yellow). I think the result is better now.
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Nakajima Ki-43-II Hyabusa (OSCAR)
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Nakajima Ki-43-II Hyabusa (OSCAR)
Hi all,
I believe most of you already saw this kit when I got it at the club. While it was there, some members made me notice how the yellow bands on the leading edge of the wing where too "new" when compared to the remaining part of the body. So these past 2 days, I spent some time fixing it (masked the area, sprayed aluminium, applied salt, then yellow). I think the result is better now.
I believe most of you already saw this kit when I got it at the club. While it was there, some members made me notice how the yellow bands on the leading edge of the wing where too "new" when compared to the remaining part of the body. So these past 2 days, I spent some time fixing it (masked the area, sprayed aluminium, applied salt, then yellow). I think the result is better now.
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Good chipping effect....
Maybe to make it excellent you should add many TINY chips too...I have studied many chips on vehicles and what I believe makes them look most authentic on models is the vareity in shape and size...
In your model you have some great klooking chips which are mostly of the medium to large size...maybe you could try applying many small dots AROUND the larger ones with a fine brush...
Just a thought mate great job otherwise...
Dottore
PS I am a fan of the Hairspray tachnique and I assure you chips are really easy and better lookign that way...next time!
In your model you have some great klooking chips which are mostly of the medium to large size...maybe you could try applying many small dots AROUND the larger ones with a fine brush...
Just a thought mate great job otherwise...
Dottore
PS I am a fan of the Hairspray tachnique and I assure you chips are really easy and better lookign that way...next time!
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Not a very fond fan of such indiscrimate chipping, but that is a matter of choice/opinion. Just a small note, whilst the body/wings are heavily battered, the wing roots and cockpit edges looks quite intact paint wise, where these areas would stepped/grabbed on by pilots and ground crew, so if the weather/coral dust/etc did that damage, what would shoes do?
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one thing i noticed is that the yellow band on the inside (red line)still looks to new. i would suggest you scartch it to expose both metallic and the green overall paint. another thing is the hinumaru red on the markings its too red for my liking it should be more rust red. otherwise the model looks very very good
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J.Fenech wrote:Not a very fond fan of such indiscrimate chipping, but that is a matter of choice/opinion. Just a small note, whilst the body/wings are heavily battered, the wing roots and cockpit edges looks quite intact paint wise, where these areas would stepped/grabbed on by pilots and ground crew, so if the weather/coral dust/etc did that damage, what would shoes do?
Got it... will try some fixings....
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J.Fenech wrote:Not a very fond fan of such indiscrimate chipping, but that is a matter of choice/opinion. Just a small note, whilst the body/wings are heavily battered, the wing roots and cockpit edges looks quite intact paint wise, where these areas would stepped/grabbed on by pilots and ground crew, so if the weather/coral dust/etc did that damage, what would shoes do?
joe, japanese paint did not stick too well on these aircraft most pictures you see are heavily chipped . most probably due to the laquered metallic paint underneath .
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alex wrote:J.Fenech wrote:Not a very fond fan of such indiscrimate chipping, but that is a matter of choice/opinion. Just a small note, whilst the body/wings are heavily battered, the wing roots and cockpit edges looks quite intact paint wise, where these areas would stepped/grabbed on by pilots and ground crew, so if the weather/coral dust/etc did that damage, what would shoes do?
joe, japanese paint did not stick too well on these aircraft most pictures you see are heavily chipped . most probably due to the laquered metallic paint underneath .
My point for heavily chipping this bird, although Joe is also right, I need to expose more aluminium at the wing roots and cockpit sides..... any side in particular which should be more bare, or both the same?
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I think its both usually you have two attendants one on each side strapping the pilot up.clioguy wrote:alex wrote:J.Fenech wrote:Not a very fond fan of such indiscrimate chipping, but that is a matter of choice/opinion. Just a small note, whilst the body/wings are heavily battered, the wing roots and cockpit edges looks quite intact paint wise, where these areas would stepped/grabbed on by pilots and ground crew, so if the weather/coral dust/etc did that damage, what would shoes do?
joe, japanese paint did not stick too well on these aircraft most pictures you see are heavily chipped . most probably due to the laquered metallic paint underneath .
My point for heavily chipping this bird, although Joe is also right, I need to expose more aluminium at the wing roots and cockpit sides..... any side in particular which should be more bare, or both the same?
sorry for insisting on the yellow its too clean , i would go for a predominance of green chipping over metal
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Brave job you did and veru good result on paint that was mostly applied with WEEDS (now that is a makeshift use for WEEDS, and not to make Butterfly Princess's thongs )
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Re: Nakajima Ki-43-II Hyabusa (OSCAR)
What do you mean by
Do you mean clean ==> not weathered or clean ==> not chipped enough?
Also, what do you mean by predominance of green chipping over metal?
alex wrote:sorry for insisting on the yellow its too clean , i would go for a predominance of green chipping over metal
Do you mean clean ==> not weathered or clean ==> not chipped enough?
Also, what do you mean by predominance of green chipping over metal?
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Ray wrote:Brave job you did and veru good result on paint that was mostly applied with WEEDS (now that is a makeshift use for WEEDS, and not to make Butterfly Princess's thongs )
WHATEVER!! ( )
Ahjar naqtawa din tal-whatever!! (and thanks for the comment)
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not chipped enough specially in the areas i marked in red.clioguy wrote:What do you mean byalex wrote:sorry for insisting on the yellow its too clean , i would go for a predominance of green chipping over metal
Do you mean clean ==> not weathered or clean ==> not chipped enough?
Also, what do you mean by predominance of green chipping over metal?
as for the second question the yellow was painted over the green. chip the yellow to reveal the green and some metal
capish as the doc would say
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clioguy wrote:Ray wrote:Brave job you did and veru good result on paint that was mostly applied with WEEDS (now that is a makeshift use for WEEDS, and not to make Butterfly Princess's thongs )
WHATEVER!! ( )
Ahjar naqtawa din tal-whatever!! (and thanks for the comment)
WHATEVER Duncan and Speak for Yourself coz I ain't gonna cut anything which is after all a child at heart quote.....Sam thinks he's the originator but my nephew Jeremy said it before him
So.......So.......So....... CHORUS......."WHATEVER"
Sowwy for the HIGHJACK AHFIRLI PLZ
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Ray wrote:clioguy wrote:Ray wrote:Brave job you did and veru good result on paint that was mostly applied with WEEDS (now that is a makeshift use for WEEDS, and not to make Butterfly Princess's thongs )
WHATEVER!! ( )
Ahjar naqtawa din tal-whatever!! (and thanks for the comment)
WHATEVER Duncan and Speak for Yourself coz I ain't gonna cut anything which is after all a child at heart quote.....Sam thinks he's the originator but my nephew Jeremy said it before him
So.......So.......So....... CHOIR.......WHATEVER
Sowwy for the HIGHJACK AHFIRLI PLZ
Mahfur u lest!!
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alex wrote:not chipped enough specially in the areas i marked in red.clioguy wrote:What do you mean byalex wrote:sorry for insisting on the yellow its too clean , i would go for a predominance of green chipping over metal
Do you mean clean ==> not weathered or clean ==> not chipped enough?
Also, what do you mean by predominance of green chipping over metal?
as for the second question the yellow was painted over the green. chip the yellow to reveal the green and some metal
capish as the doc would say
Oooopss didn't see the red markings before.....
I wasn't aware that the yellow was pointed OVER the green, I thought it was painted over the aluminium....I can try and fill some of the chipping with the green and see what the effect is.
Regarding the roundels, maybe I can fix that with an oil filter?
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fixings....
as i pointed out hairspray techniqu gives u the advantage of being able to chip specifically where you want...oin that way you could focus chipping on the cockpit sides etc...
As for this model it is very good as it is...I would recommend trying some brush chipping maybe around cockpit etc but I wouldnt bother with all the other nitpicks as you run the ricsk of ruining an othewise nice model for the sake of nit picks as valid as they obviously are....
Just keep them in mind for next bird...
Dottore
As for this model it is very good as it is...I would recommend trying some brush chipping maybe around cockpit etc but I wouldnt bother with all the other nitpicks as you run the ricsk of ruining an othewise nice model for the sake of nit picks as valid as they obviously are....
Just keep them in mind for next bird...
Dottore
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does the hairspray technique work with enamels?
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some say it does work but i have serious doubtclioguy wrote:does the hairspray technique work with enamels?
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Probably the salt technique is more ideal, hairspray has to be water based ...
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Duncan....
once you go acrylic...you wont go back.
Others in the club keep to acrylics cos they have a huge depot of enamel based paints and are opbviously reluctant to throw away....
The colour vividity of acrylics is unmatched...dry faster and non toxic...
Any advantages of enamels?
Dottore
Others in the club keep to acrylics cos they have a huge depot of enamel based paints and are opbviously reluctant to throw away....
The colour vividity of acrylics is unmatched...dry faster and non toxic...
Any advantages of enamels?
Dottore
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yes fine lines easy to do and this is comming from an acryllic paint apostle .your turn at scrabble dottDottore wrote:once you go acrylic...you wont go back.
Others in the club keep to acrylics cos they have a huge depot of enamel based paints and are opbviously reluctant to throw away....
The colour vividity of acrylics is unmatched...dry faster and non toxic...
Any advantages of enamels?
Dottore
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also if enamels dry up inside the airbrush, you will not bring down the whole sky swearing, but a little thinner and you're back in action.
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Ever heard of....
Sprayaway Duncan Never had prolems with Tamiya acrylics and Noel can vouche for Lifecolour...I know Vallejo are a little tougher to get used to but hey everything has a learning curve!
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We also found something good for Vallejo as Ray found out!
Both parties have the pronse and cons, but once you touch acrylics or Tamiya, you'll find how fast you can work ... think about it!
Both parties have the pronse and cons, but once you touch acrylics or Tamiya, you'll find how fast you can work ... think about it!
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Dottore wrote:once you go acrylic...you wont go back.
Others in the club keep to acrylics cos they have a huge depot of enamel based paints and are opbviously reluctant to throw away....
The colour vividity of acrylics is unmatched...dry faster and non toxic...
Any advantages of enamels?
Dottore
The ORACLE HAS SPOKEN
What do you know of ENAMELS???????
Enamels are UNBEATABLE for any kind of delicate scribble, mottle and the least of overspray!!!!!!!
They are also unbeatable for troublefree clogging of the airbrush, so less time consuming......the time you spend applying sprayawy in the airbrush after each bout/cup full of paint, you would spray a 1:1 model
I am STILL WAITING and I DARE and CHALLENGE anyone to pull out a scribble or mottle scheme IN ACRYLICS, on a 1/72nd Aircraft like Aldo executes in ENAMELS
So Doc Roe, before you DARE make any comparisons of any kind, BE SURE you would have at least a SOUND KNOWLEDGE on the matter, moreover if you would have not experienced that matter yoursef
IMHO Acrylics are LIFELESS......no smell I miss the smell of cellulose, white spirit, turpentine, Oil paint and Linseed Oil even if branded "unhealthy and enemy of the enviorment" we're still gonna ALL die after all
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