Romeo's 90mm Knight Hospitaller c1300

alex wrote:

iCocker wrote:Forgot to mention, those that are in love with white why instead diverse into a Teutonic one, they started off in the middleEast and were almost annihalated in the fall of Acre. That is white field with a latin black cross.

almost anhilated but their true demise was at the hands of the poles and latvians at the battle of tannenberg on the 15th july 1410. this part of european history is almost completely neglected by western historians. the poles and their nordic allies gave the arrogant teutons a lesson in warfare and courage and almost completely anhilated the teutinic army those that survived where ransomed for big sums of gold this made the teutonic order bankrupt with most of its surviving associates joining other religous orders.

now for the modeller polish knights, boyars and men at arms would make an interesting choice of subjects being a cross between western and eastern armour and equipment

Ray wrote:Saracen Helmet ready

I was thinking of simulating Ivan's idea of a Saracen banner (part of) beneath the Knight's feet, obviously showing the moon crescent beneath the feet but am saving the time, especially as it will be Red from top to bottom, and the idea of PAINTING a BLACK KNIGHT (thanks to Ivan) is at the back of my mind (u jekk taqbizli I'll get another one from Catania ) and he'll be ALL BLACK with the Red Saracen banner beneath his feet

Hardy wrote:I will be watching these masterpieces coming alive intently. Mine when I eventually start it will be red baring a resemblance to a certain character out of the latest Robin Hood film. Hardy

Hardy how are you mate? Missed you at Folkestone

We had the usual BLAST

Hey why are you going to WAIT???????

Go on and start with us PLEASE over here on our forum for the forum's first group build, we'll be honoured to say the least to have you doing it with us

Noel Petroni wrote:So according to Ivan's research you should be quite accurate on this.

Red or black........ both will look nice!

Look forward to see the painting on this............. this year though!

Regards
Noel

Noel, he'll be ready for Catania PROMISE

iCocker wrote:Ray aren't you putting a quilted cotton coif, it was normal to have one under mail ?

Are you SERIOUS or ?

I know but it will not show when the hair is done

iCocker wrote:Ah so you are going into a hairy brother! Check out 13c haircut style as it was quite distinctive! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1200%E2%80%931300_in_fashion
Normally many sculptors overlook that fashion was not something from the 60s onwards ...

[The clothing of royalty was set apart by its rich fabric and luxurious furs. Hair and beard were moderate in length, and men generally wore their hair in a "pageboy" style, curling under at necklength. Shoes were slightly pointed, and embroidered for royalty and higher clergy.[3]]

Copied and pasted the above the link you posted Ivan

So hair was "curling under at necklength" which I take was longer then necklength since it curled inwards

A Miles Christi Brother in the Holy Land surely would not have curled the lower strands of his hair inward to keep his hair at neck length so mine would be wearing his hair just a little longer then neck length

Hopefully, the hair as it is "growing" would give my Brother a distinctive appearance of SOMEONE we ALL SHOULD KNOW

Noel Petroni wrote:By the looks of his tattered surcoat being patched-up and torn, he either has no money or has been in battle for a week or so.

My point is that I don't think his hair needs to be nicely done as though with a blowdry with turned ends! Being under the helmet would make it look all scrafy!

Regards
Noel

My point exactly

Ray wrote:

Noel Petroni wrote:By the looks of his tattered surcoat being patched-up and torn, he either has no money or has been in battle for a week or so.

My point is that I don't think his hair needs to be nicely done as though with a blowdry with turned ends! Being under the helmet would make it look all scrafy!

Regards
Noel

My point exactly

iCocker wrote:

Ray wrote:

Noel Petroni wrote:By the looks of his tattered surcoat being patched-up and torn, he either has no money or has been in battle for a week or so.

My point is that I don't think his hair needs to be nicely done as though with a blowdry with turned ends! Being under the helmet would make it look all scrafy!

Regards
Noel

My point exactly

Not exactly scruffy but sweaty, a head with coif, mail and helmet is like a conventional oven, would be a challenge to get a wet look effect ... ejja Ray!

Thanks for REMINDING me

Joking apart, I never really contemplated on the wet look effect, since the "sheen" is obtained quite well with the satiny finish of the Vallejo's

And one has to be a WIZARD to conjure "sweat in scale" on anything smaller then 180mm at least

But it is worth considering nonetheless

Ray wrote:JF, Brian, Noel & Marco, thanks for looking and the interest.

Marco, I don't know exactly what you mean by "professional" but I take it that you are referring to a visible painted face would appear better then a visored/helmeted face

It would look just as great for a change to paint a helmeted version, even though with my slight adjustment/conversion/alteration, will make the piece unique and different from the rest

I will still paint a helmeted version pity I don't have one at the moment because I would get them both ready for Catania

Joking apart, I never really contemplated on the wet look effect, since the "sheen" is obtained quite well with the satiny finish of the Vallejo's

And one has to be a WIZARD to conjure "sweat in scale" on anything smaller then 180mm at least

But it is worth considering nonetheless