Mig-21 - work in progress

More like work resumed, Academy Mig-21 with FM details cockpit in 1/48th scale. Drybrushed and put together the cockpit. The green color is quite difficult and really a b****h to work with, and you can't lighten it more otherwise it goes completely out of point.

Joseph

Joe int ingridibli tal gen..........

Fantastic Joseph......the tone looks very good and as you said, if you lighten a certain colour even more you end up with a different tone altogether.

Maybe you should have darkened the base colour just a bit and then you lightened with the actual colour, but as I said it looks ok

Ray

Hi Joseph,

Take a look at---> http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=896&Itemid=1
I think David achieved the accurate Interior tone for the Cockpit.

Great work so far...

Finally a soviet era jet from yur magic hands ... what nation middle east? Hope so ...

I think the MIG21 is similar to the T55 soviet MBT tank, so many nations and so many schemes to choose from!

Ivan

Alex Kontiveis wrote:Hi Joseph,

Take a look at---> http://www.helmo.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=896&Itemid=1
I think David achieved the accurate Interior tone for the Cockpit.

Great work so far...

Took a look at David cockpit, but my impression is that it is too blue, could be light effects, but it looks more similar to the blue used in sukhoi aircraft cockpits. Could just be my impression. Something I overlooked is that white strip in the front panel, will try to rectify but I doubt it as the cockpit is already fixed inside the fusalage. Thanks for the advice.

iCocker wrote:Finally a soviet era jet from yur magic hands ... what nation middle east? Hope so ...

I think the MIG21 is similar to the T55 soviet MBT tank, so many nations and so many schemes to choose from!

Ivan

Yep, middle east was my intention? What do you think about a syrian mig during 1982 were they suffered heavy losses to Isreali F-16 and F-15s

That would be nice as it would be a rare bird probably extinct by now

Ivan

If the one I am going to model was one of the aircraft shot down it is definitly extint, but a quick search on th net, it looks that syria still got a sizeable fleet of Mig 21, in excess of 200 if the sources are correct. Not sure about the scheme, if still in sand,green, grey,blue and given todays trend maybe they painted then in gray color. Will make a quick check on the net.

Joseph

Check this site mate http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_207.shtml

Ivan

Good site, Thanks. Found the 1982 database, but it does not give the Mig-21 number of the aircraft shot down, but gives the squadron number of the isreali aircraft that shot down an aircraft. Something is brewing in my mind, maybe a F-15A in isreali markings to sit side by side the Mig???

Excellent detail, you must have one very fine brush

How do you paint such details mate!!!!!

Must be cos I'm hopeless with brushes!



Dottore

Dottore wrote:How do you paint such details mate!!!!!

Must be cos I'm hopeless with brushes!



Dottore

using a 0000 brush, ruining the eyesight (do not use magnifying glass, got a pair semi-permanent ), doing it late at night instead of sleeping and lot of words Joking apart I use acyrlic in this case so that any mistakes can be washed away and redo them, something that happens.

can be washed away?????

You must be kidding me....the only thing i know that can be wahed away are oils...maybe enamels...
Valleyo dry rock hard...can never get them off!

Dottore

I wash away the very same moment I get a mistake, and start all over again.

Maybe with rubbing alcohal?

nope just a cotton bud, brush and water, not to mention quick. just the moment the mistake is done

FJ wrote:nope just a cotton bud, brush and water, not to mention quick. just the moment the mistake is done

So you don't repaint and then drybrush like I used to do when I was not a Traitor

Ray

Ray wrote:

FJ wrote:nope just a cotton bud, brush and water, not to mention quick. just the moment the mistake is done

So you don't repaint and then drybrush like I used to do when I was not a Traitor

Ray

Yes I do drybrushing with oils and sometimes mixed with enamels. When switches etc.. stand out with drybrushing I pick them out with acrylics. I am using acrylics here cause if I do and mistake, like a slip of the brush I can wipe out the mistake immediately without affecting the paint work, since it is not water based.

FJ wrote:

Ray wrote:

FJ wrote:nope just a cotton bud, brush and water, not to mention quick. just the moment the mistake is done

So you don't repaint and then drybrush like I used to do when I was not a Traitor

Ray

Yes I do drybrushing with oils and sometimes mixed with enamels. When switches etc.. stand out with drybrushing I pick them out with acrylics. I am using acrylics here cause if I do and mistake, like a slip of the brush I can wipe out the mistake immediately without affecting the paint work, since it is not water based.

Ok gotch it

Ray

I use enamels for dry brushing and oils for washing. hate acrylics for this detailed stuff. DO NOT! use enamels for washing

AdriaN wrote:I use enamels for dry brushing and oils for washing. hate acrylics for this detailed stuff. NO NOT! use enamels for washing

You should try to use oils for drybrushing. It is more time consuming but I think leave a better result then enamels alone because they take longer to dry. I do sometimes mix oils and enamels for drybrushing. As regards acrylics, I am very pro-enamels but this is my opinion, and the only time I use acrylics in modelling is to do cockpit switches and stuff. I also use them for painting ejection seats cushions and belts, but the choice of using them is more to quicken the pace.

Major parts joined and mig is taking shape. Quite some filling needed and still to add detailing into wheel wells (piping, etc..) In the end it will be a Mig 21bis, Syrian AF (but still to do more research on the paint option)

I've heard that the Mig 21 had short wings but seeing pics of a model.............
It's a wonder that that plane even flew.  
Still looking good Joseph.

Wil