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BA64-B Miniart ...first paint...
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Ray...
Usually they draped any sort of fabric they could find...think the shape is odd? I redo it?
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Chassis and shadows....
The chassis of Russian wheeled vehicles was appearantly black in colour....
The chassis has been painted together with the preshaded shadows...
Next up...4BO...hopefully today...
Dottore
PS Tarp was reworked after comments that the shape looked odd....hope you like this better Ray...
The chassis has been painted together with the preshaded shadows...
Next up...4BO...hopefully today...
Dottore
PS Tarp was reworked after comments that the shape looked odd....hope you like this better Ray...
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Don't know about the others, but it looks fine to me. Great work and immaculate as usual! My builds must be some of the untidiest around.
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I echo Brian's words. I like it more now.
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2 weeks to splash the underside black DOC?
Scrutinising again the images the tarp looks OK BUT it has that element of put on, not that it belongs to the vehicle. It is like being there to hide a sin, it gives me that feeling, ma nafx the others. I know that interior is very basic and till date never came across an image that show a turret with a tarp to get the idea correctly but then again studying the kit as I got one, it shows small tie downs on the edges so I guess some sort of tarps they used and surely they used those tie downs, maybe you can do a better one and stretched correctly on that hexagonal edge maybe using the tiedowns to stretch to?
Or else see if someone can paint a figure for you to place into the turret, I THINK IT WILL LOOK BETTER!!!!!
Ivan
Scrutinising again the images the tarp looks OK BUT it has that element of put on, not that it belongs to the vehicle. It is like being there to hide a sin, it gives me that feeling, ma nafx the others. I know that interior is very basic and till date never came across an image that show a turret with a tarp to get the idea correctly but then again studying the kit as I got one, it shows small tie downs on the edges so I guess some sort of tarps they used and surely they used those tie downs, maybe you can do a better one and stretched correctly on that hexagonal edge maybe using the tiedowns to stretch to?
Or else see if someone can paint a figure for you to place into the turret, I THINK IT WILL LOOK BETTER!!!!!
Ivan
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iCocker wrote:2 weeks to splash the underside black DOC?
Scrutinising again the images the tarp looks OK BUT it has that element of put on, not that it belongs to the vehicle. It is like being there to hide a sin, it gives me that feeling, ma nafx the others. I know that interior is very basic and till date never came across an image that show a turret with a tarp to get the idea correctly but then again studying the kit as I got one, it shows small tie downs on the edges so I guess some sort of tarps they used and surely they used those tie downs, maybe you can do a better one and stretched correctly on that hexagonal edge maybe using the tiedowns to stretch to?
Or else see if someone can paint a figure for you to place into the turret, I THINK IT WILL LOOK BETTER!!!!!
Ivan
At Last.......Someone Agreed with Me
This one looks better in shape but I agree with Ivan if there are tiedowns just use them or else we'll try to contemplate on the figure option
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Figure vs Tarp...
There were custom made tarps for the Ba64 which had eyelits and cord was used to secure the tarp to the tie downs around the turret...but I think u agree with me that unless an aftermarket company produce that piece in resin reproducing it would be too complex and time consuming abd beyond the scope of what originated as a quick OOTB build...
The turret remains very barren inside and again I do not want to scrtach the turret innards...I am NOT a russian diehard fan (sorry Ivan )
Re figure...I have a german figure which fits this turret but it would need a new ruskie head and then again it wouldnt conceal the whole turret interior and I HAVENT painted the rest of the interior cos i was happy it would be obscured from view...
My thought was that the crew placed a tarp as an in-the-field expediant to avoid getting wet by inevitable winter/spring shower...
Think its too late for anything much other than continuing to experiment with different shaped tarps...but I was not too displeased with how this turned out...
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The turret remains very barren inside and again I do not want to scrtach the turret innards...I am NOT a russian diehard fan (sorry Ivan )
Re figure...I have a german figure which fits this turret but it would need a new ruskie head and then again it wouldnt conceal the whole turret interior and I HAVENT painted the rest of the interior cos i was happy it would be obscured from view...
My thought was that the crew placed a tarp as an in-the-field expediant to avoid getting wet by inevitable winter/spring shower...
Think its too late for anything much other than continuing to experiment with different shaped tarps...but I was not too displeased with how this turned out...
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Dottore wrote:There were custom made tarps for the Ba64 which had eyelits and cord was used to secure the tarp to the tie downs around the turret...but I think u agree with me that unless an aftermarket company produce that piece in resin reproducing it would be too complex and time consuming abd beyond the scope of what originated as a quick OOTB build...
The turret remains very barren inside and again I do not want to scrtach the turret innards...I am NOT a russian diehard fan (sorry Ivan )
Re figure...I have a german figure which fits this turret but it would need a new ruskie head and then again it wouldnt conceal the whole turret interior and I HAVENT painted the rest of the interior cos i was happy it would be obscured from view...
My thought was that the crew placed a tarp as an in-the-field expediant to avoid getting wet by inevitable winter/spring shower...
Think its too late for anything much other than continuing to experiment with different shaped tarps...but I was not too displeased with how this turned out...
Dottore
NO I DO NOT AGREE!
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iCocker wrote:Dottore wrote:There were custom made tarps for the Ba64 which had eyelits and cord was used to secure the tarp to the tie downs around the turret...but I think u agree with me that unless an aftermarket company produce that piece in resin reproducing it would be too complex and time consuming abd beyond the scope of what originated as a quick OOTB build...
The turret remains very barren inside and again I do not want to scrtach the turret innards...I am NOT a russian diehard fan (sorry Ivan )
Re figure...I have a german figure which fits this turret but it would need a new ruskie head and then again it wouldnt conceal the whole turret interior and I HAVENT painted the rest of the interior cos i was happy it would be obscured from view...
My thought was that the crew placed a tarp as an in-the-field expediant to avoid getting wet by inevitable winter/spring shower...
Think its too late for anything much other than continuing to experiment with different shaped tarps...but I was not too displeased with how this turned out...
Dottore
NO I DO NOT AGREE!
Oops Dot, I think you have some trouble!!
Anyway what is wrong with putting a tarp onto the open hatch for rain protection, just as long as he makes some terrian this time.
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Tarps on BA64s
Strange enough they just tarp it when in transit or parked, in action they keep it open ... sadists maybe???
Posted other ideas how you might fill up the turret opening ...
Posted other ideas how you might fill up the turret opening ...
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Not sure if modern as BAs continued to be a workhorse till the 50s but looks like a museum piece ... tarp very similar to one of the BW foto.
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Dot did you sad you want some detail for the interior , I found these blueprints may be they are useful ........
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some more..
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real photos..
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and this is the restored one ..
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Thanks Marco...
But I wont go thru the hassle of scratching detail...
Ivan I can see a pic u posted with a haphazardly placed tarp...just like I intended mine...
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Ivan I can see a pic u posted with a haphazardly placed tarp...just like I intended mine...
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Yep I agree Dottore but the only issue those are captured by Germans and in a static role ... check soldiers near the vehicles.
I agree it can be done but check again that tarp looks bigger and is covering also the MG. I think the original russian tarp look much better as it retain the shape of the turret which is quite atractive ... but again that is my opinion, will see what others think ...
I agree it can be done but check again that tarp looks bigger and is covering also the MG. I think the original russian tarp look much better as it retain the shape of the turret which is quite atractive ... but again that is my opinion, will see what others think ...
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Dottore wrote:But I wont go thru the hassle of scratching detail...
Ivan I can see a pic u posted with a haphazardly placed tarp...just like I intended mine...
Dottore
My heart really goes out to you at this very sad moment Doc, when you are bombarded from different fronts
All bombardments are in GOOD FAITH ama you feel like telling everyone to FO when they sort of "invade" your flow of thinking
I shall say this only once
Weigh what is the least time consuming & would turn into a decent enough looking job
Please allow me if I may on the haphazardly thrown tarp.....roll out the rectangular shape & throw/put it on just like in real life & let it fall naturally on the odd shaped turret.....don't try to go for "fancy folds"
Just my 2c worth
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I agree with Ray, I think what is conflicting is that straight line over the multi edged turret ... I know you fancy this foto and style [probably as it less time consuming and not available as cottage industry] but study again the turp. It is rounded and falling over the turret, mhux qiesha tvalja mitnija pulita ... it has to be natural not put! Can't understand the humb the back BA has underneath the turp ...
I have to admit a mistake as those guys headgearlook ruskie now that I enlarged ... so you are spot on
I have to admit a mistake as those guys headgearlook ruskie now that I enlarged ... so you are spot on
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X'ma nhobbux da' l-club jien Kieku hadd iehor mhux ilu li tefahha u zebaha
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Tarp...
Guys thats what I did...I just cut a rectanle of rolled out Duro...placed it on the turret and let it droop...
@ Ivan...what humo at the back of the Ba are u referring to?
Dottore
@ Ivan...what humo at the back of the Ba are u referring to?
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Dottore wrote:Guys thats what I did...I just cut a rectanle of rolled out Duro...placed it on the turret and let it droop...
@ Ivan...what humo at the back of the Ba are u referring to?
Dottore
Maybe that is why it looks a bit funny.... you don't have to cut it as a rectangle, but as a circle, then let it droop..... all the covers shown in the pics droop down symmetrically, while yours is not symmetrical and looks like it was just thrown there.....
Just my 2p.... I'm no AFV expert
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Dottore wrote:Guys thats what I did...I just cut a rectanle of rolled out Duro...placed it on the turret and let it droop...
@ Ivan...what humo at the back of the Ba are u referring to?
Dottore
Dot, check the BA on the back on the last image I posted. It has a hump jetting upwards ... probably it's the DT machinegun, it has a long leg and if it is looking downwards the leg will get the opposite effect ... I think Mr Sant was spot on, having an irregular shaped tarp will help to get a better look and not loose that shape of the turret which quite a nice feature ... if you need a helping hand let me know ...
Iv