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    Post  jojjemannen Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:40 pm

    Hi,

    Thought I should post some progress pictures so those who are interested can leave criticism so I can become better!

    So here goes:

    When assembling the muffler it broke:
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    So I had to redo it. (Oliver laughed and said with a smile, "It's easy Tiny, it's soo easy")
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    Made a replacement spring for the rear fender
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    Primed everything with Vallejo Air:
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    And after Noels class I tried it out and this is as far as i've gone.
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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:26 pm

    Wow Tiny!!! I'm very much impressed!!!!

    You have a clean build and the added detail is soooooo good!!!

    THe paint work is also fantastic!

    You are really taking and storing information about techniques!

    Well done!

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    Post  skyhigh Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:06 pm

    Ok Tiny.... I see you are following well.... cheers
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    Post  Guest Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:46 pm

    great work, it has all the looks of going to be a great build
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:27 pm

    Hey Tiny, that is excellent work there or is that a photo of Noel's tank during the lecture!!?? Well done my big friend, that is really excellent, clean work.
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    Post  Ray Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:38 am

    BRAVU cheers

    Impressive work you Tiny Viking, you really are an obedient student Laughing
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    Post  Alex Kontiveis Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:45 am

    Fantastic paint work Tiny! I think it's gonna be great at last!!!
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    Post  in nannu pec Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:09 pm

    BRAVO TINY CLEAN CONTRUCTION AND PAINTWORK Very Happy Very Happy
    PRIVATE LESSONS ARE SERVING GOOD PURPOSE:)SmileSmile
    LETS KEEP THESE TUTORIALS GOING GUYS THEY DO THE WORLD OF GOOD
    WELL DONE JOSEPH !!!!
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    Post  alexbb Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:23 pm

    CLEAN BUILD TINY AND THE AIRBRUSHING IS QUITE GOOD. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST HOWEVER IS TO GIVE THE MODEL AN VERY HIGHLY DILUTED OVERSPRAY OF THE BASE COLOUR. 5%PAINT 95% DILLUANT THAT WAY YOU WILL BLEND IN THE DARK SHADE WITH THE BASIC COLOUR
    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. SEE, YOURE GETTING BETTER ALREADY
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    Post  Dottore Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:09 pm

    Great build....nice and clean like a surgeon's work! cheers

    Dunno if u intend the opaintwork to be in its final shade....if yes I would suggest u heed Alex's suggestion and overspray a thin coat of the panzer grey to tone down the shades a little bit...

    Lookin forward to more....but dont go for too many techniques at once....GET IT FINISHED!

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    Post  jojjemannen Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:55 pm

    God damnit S**TF**K I hate painting!!

    It's official, I will hereby only paint using single color straight from the bottle (the scheme might be tricolor).

    Tried to highlight the hatches and so on but it came out looking .. like me on the day after a night out..

    So I fired up some Lifecolors in my trusty airgun and shot the following layer of Panzer Grey (RAL 7021, supposed to be the original color of the tanks from the workshop)
    Don't know what to do.. keep it or do a new try with preshading or?


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    Post  alexbb Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:05 pm

    TINY I THINK WHAT YOU NEED IS A HANDS ON APPROACH. IF I MAKE IT TOMORROW WE WILL TRY TO FIX A DAY WHERE YOU WILL AIRBRUSH UNDER SUPERVISION
    i cant even begin to imagine me scolding you for your work, can you imagine a dwarf trying to pick up a fight with a giant
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    Post  Ray Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:06 pm

    Be patient Viking it looks perfect lol!

    You have two options Twisted Evil

    No1 You surrender to your enemy and leave it as it is, thus denying your SSM Brotherhood and embracing that of the Yellow Coward Brotherhood pale

    No2 Pick yourself up, put on your helmet, grab your sword and sheild and CHARGE the enemy head on with a new try at preshading like the true SSM Brother you are pirat

    The choice is yours. Better to die young and be remembered then die an OLD HIDING COWERING Veteran Sad Remember ODIN and your VIKING forefathers. Make them proud of you and make us proud of you Shocked
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    Post  jojjemannen Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:15 pm

    alex wrote:TINY I THINK WHAT YOU NEED IS A HANDS ON APPROACH. IF I MAKE IT TOMORROW WE WILL TRY TO FIX A DAY WHERE YOU WILL AIRBRUSH UNDER SUPERVISION
    i cant even begin to imagine me scolding you for your work, can you imagine a dwarf trying to pick up a fight with a giant

    You can scold me how much you want, the only way I can learn apparently.. I fail at reading and trying.

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    Post  in nannu pec Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:10 pm

    OH COME ON TINY....U WILL GET THAT TANK FNISHED ...I AGREE WITH ALEX, RAY AND DOTT....PUT YOUR HELMET ON AND TAKE IT....REMEMVER ME GLUEING ON THE WINGS OF A SALAMANDER ...BACKSIDE FIRST...SO HANG ON THERE AND YES AGREE WITH ALEX U NEED A HANDS ON APPROACH...U HAVE TO HUMBLE YOURSELF AND LET A DEMON DWARF Twisted Evil Twisted Evil WIN OVER A GIANT....A GENTLE GIANT.....AND BOW TO HIS COMMANDS....MODELING COMMANDS!!!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Post  bcauchi Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:36 am

    I suggest you try the preshading again. You were well on the right track. the only thing you did wrong was to spray the entire tank with the original colour which was too opaque. When you respray to blend in the colours, the paint has to be heavily thinned dopwn so that you can build up your work slowly in multiple passes. Go for it again and preshade and highlight again then thin the original paint a lot before blending in the colours otherwise all the work would have been in vain. a very common mistake.
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    Post  Joseph Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:59 am

    Come on I am sure that you can do it, go for it pre shading, pre shading Smile Smile
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    Post  iCocker Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:22 am

    Sorry guys but why all this enphasise on preshading, Panzer Grey is already a damn dark colour and if one is using preshading to create demarkation in the panels I rather suggest controlled pin washing.

    Personally I would more suggest an overhead overall gradation colour, to highlight the modular block design of the tank. Overhead spraying as Alex suggested will give a 3D dimension to the tank, hence the turret would get a more highlighted area. Panzer Grey is a very tricky colour, apart that till date no one is 100% sure what was the tonality [please Marco do not start any thread with suggestions LOL]it is a dark mute colour and needs some highlighting to create definition IMO.

    Tiny I think you have already have a very good base, I would try to mix the Drak Grey that you have with a lighter greyish blue mix to create a highlight and overhead spray the tank from a particular angle, work in diluted sessions and progress to the highlight in stages. NB. I am still not convinced with that gun mantled, I see it too long for an early Pz4, might I be wrong as I am more in love with ruskie tanks ... check it out with referances mate ...

    Keep the good work, you have acheived a very smooth finish coat ... PROSIT!

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    Post  Dottore Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:45 am

    Go for basics first....filters...pin wash...chipping...and get a model done....

    Step up for your next model then....but at least you'll hit nthe shelves with your first model and not get frustrated for not finishing anything...

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    Post  jojjemannen Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:29 am

    Actually, I think I jumped the gun on this one.

    If you take a look at this picture, you can see the uneveness (if that's a word) of the paint.
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    BUT taking a look at it this morning before the gym it looked OK!

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    But all the fancy preshading is gone. So I wonder if I should go ahead and just complete this one


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    Post  iCocker Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:54 am

    GO AHEAD WHAT ARE YOU WAITING cheers
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    Post  jojjemannen Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:53 pm

    OK, it's been some blood-spill over this build.

    The barrel was wrongly assembled so I decided to build the turret from the other kit.. from which I've stolen a few things since they vanished from the other kid. Said and done, trying to disassemble the turret I stuck the blade in my finger.

    Where's mommy when I need her?!

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    Post  jojjemannen Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:50 pm

    And here is the new turret.

    The barrel looks better now.

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    Post  iCocker Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:36 am

    Ah that is much better mate ... sorry for your finger, but I can assure you it shall not be the first Shocked


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    Post  Ray Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:49 am

    Told you not to fiddle with swords till you can handle the sheild lol!

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