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    Post  Dottore Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:20 am

    But I have pummelled Ray with the ideology for weeks and weeks...its HIS subject after all!!!

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    Post  alexbb Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:46 am

    im no entemologist so i will not comment on the natural history aspect, but one thing is for sure the vibrant colours and airbrush work are stunning
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    Post  Ray Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:49 pm

    From pics I found on the net + the book TanKred lent me (where the same subject is featured) the drab scheme is on the inside, while the brighter scheme is underneath.

    However, I will submit myself to "reality in fantasy" just the same!!

    Doc Roe, I'd appreciate it very much if you were to spare just one tiny book you can lend me for guidance please, especially if you're coming to BBQ this eve Suspect

    As I said, nothing is finalised Evil or Very Mad I just went "crazy" with the colours & "pattern" to test my mettle with the airbrush + acrylics (remb NEW2ME)& all their hyped diluents, so the wings just served as a test bed of all sorts, sort of Laughing

    If things go according to plan, I'll do my best to bring her with me as she is I love you
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    Post  Dottore Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:46 pm

    Doc Roe will again hear the anguished shouts of MEDIC!!!!! and come to your rescue with a selection of books on the subject...tonight at BarBQ...

    @ Alex...its ENTOMOLOGIST...but it was a good shot cus...close enough cat

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    Post  skyhigh Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:11 pm

    Wow Ray ,the leaf and the flower looks real to me .... affraid
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    Post  alexbb Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:40 pm

    Dottore wrote:Doc Roe will again hear the anguished shouts of MEDIC!!!!! and come to your rescue with a selection of books on the subject...tonight at BarBQ...

    @ Alex...its ENTOMOLOGIST...but it was a good shot cus...close enough cat

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    Post  iCocker Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:57 pm

    Ah there is one point that justifies your colour choice Ray, females normally are drap compared to males, so 'naturally' you are correct on this subject ... keep them coming she surely be a show stopper ... in the future you should do the Andrea flying libellula elf as another companion ...

    Again our exENTOMOLOGIST forgot everything since he is now in Freud's realm

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    Post  in nannu pec Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:14 am

    PEC................ affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
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    Post  clioguy Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:44 pm

    Ray, I AM SPEECHLESS!!! silent

    It is just a beauty..... keep it up.
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    Post  bcauchi Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:19 am

    Any progress news?!!
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    Post  Ray Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:29 am

    Working at a slow rate Brian due to work Sad

    But there is some progress don't worry....be patient and you'll be rewarded Laughing
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    Post  bcauchi Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:29 am

    I am sure Ray but i miss updates on this one since it is so original.
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    Post  Ray Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:33 am

    Morn my SSM Brethren Cool

    Here are some pics to show you where I am with this beauty I love you

    This is as far as airbrush work goes Sad

    I ENJOYED the process after sooooo many years & kept the swearing to a bare minimum honestly Twisted Evil even though it was not an easy job as everything kept coming in everything's way but managed a decent free hand job on body and wings.....the only masking done was on the whole wings when they were ready pale

    Can I ask for an opinion PLEASE? Do you think I should leave the wings' veins as they are and not outline them in black, since they are quite wide and IMHO would look too accentuated?

    Anything else please do fire on as usual Razz

    NOW IT IS TIME TO SHARPEN THE BRUSHES AND KEEP THEM BUSY n WET Laughing


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    Post  in nannu pec Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:40 am

    YES IT WAS DEFINETELY WORTH ALL THE WAITING.....BEAUTIFUL SPRAY JOB BRO
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    Post  iCocker Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:50 am

    Very good Ray, the wings are damn cool, you really captured that 'metallic' electric blue of the tropical swallowtail ... as for the veins I think it would loose much of the work if you re-paint in black, unfortunetly the maker made them pretty thick, maybe just add that little shadow and highlight to create the effect, that wings were made in sections, otehrwise it is cool!
    Love also the body paint job ... will surely be a picker this gem mate!
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    Post  Dottore Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:07 am

    Is the blue and yellow on the body inevitable spray from the wing painting or as Ivan suggested something done purposely to complement the hind wing scheme? Cos I've never seen butterflies with a coloured torso/body....

    Love the colours though personally I would have gone for a drab underside...

    With the same reasoning I would paint the veins....It is a butterfly after all!

    Love me or hate me its my opinion and I said it...but great airbrush work mate!

    Looking forward to more...

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    Post  alexbb Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:21 am

    Dottore wrote:Is the blue and yellow on the body inevitable spray from the wing painting or as Ivan suggested something done purposely to complement the hind wing scheme? Cos I've never seen butterflies with a coloured torso/body....

    Love the colours though personally I would have gone for a drab underside...

    With the same reasoning I would paint the veins....It is a butterfly after all!

    Love me or hate me its my opinion and I said it...but great airbrush work mate!

    Looking forward to more...

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    matt i cant help but answer, of course you are entitled to an opinion but
    for heavens sake have you ever seen a fairy? this is fantasy, figment of someones fantastic immagination, sometimes you look at things too rigidly, this is what fantasy modelling is all about, vibrant colours, fairytale characters, and our dreams or nightmares, for that matter, given a third dimension

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    Post  bcauchi Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:40 am

    Brilliant work Ray, the airbrushing is really nice. I agree with our Doc however and would paint the veins on the wings. If you choose the colour carefully, this can be a really nice effect.
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    Post  Dottore Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:02 pm

    I know its fantasy....for heaven's sake theres a bimbo with wings...BUT...you MUST pertain yourself to a MINIMUM of realism...

    Just because its fantasy dooesnt mean you have no rules I THINK...then again its just my 2c worth of opinion...

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    Post  RayCaruana Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:18 pm

    I like the wings Ray...Great airbrush work and the choice of colour is spot on IMO. To be honest I'm not so sure about the body painting at this stage, will wait until the face , hair etc. are done. But hey, it looks like we have another awesome piece coming up. cheers
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    Post  alexbb Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:16 pm

    Dottore wrote:I know its fantasy....for heaven's sake theres a bimbo with wings...BUT...you MUST pertain yourself to a MINIMUM of realism...

    Just because its fantasy dooesnt mean you have no rules I THINK...then again its just my 2c worth of opinion...

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    she's got two legs, two hands, two improved you know what, a lovely face a curvy bottom and beautiful hair I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH AS REGARDS TO REALITY

    dott in your entomology days did you catch or come across anything like it/her

    "REALISM IN FANTASY" my mind"s goining to overdrive lol!
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    Post  Dottore Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:05 am

    It is simple enough cousin...if the sculptor thought to sculpt a vein on the wing...it has to be painted as a vein...
    Coloration on butterflies is due to scales. Remember that 'dust' which use to rub on our fingers when handling butterflies (those of you who did). That dust is nothing but scales which donne the butterflies' colour. Now there are NO scales on venation...so fantasy or not, making a vein coloured is heresy in my books...

    Now obviously Ray you can do all that your mind pleases but even looking at the wings...seeing the colour overlap on the veins to me stands out badly...

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    Post  bcauchi Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:08 am

    I agree with Doc, there is something not quite right when you look at the wings. One option would have been not to let the colours you sprayed in overlap the veins. They would have remained in the base dark colour and you could have sprayed the varous shades in the spaces between them still retaining your desired pattern of colour. That can be a solution.
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    Post  alexbb Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:19 pm

    a midsummernights dream by william shakespeare. the lord of the rings trilogy by jrr tolkein, the chronicles of narnia by c.s. lewis, alice in wonderland and through the looking glass by lewis carrol, the star wars trilogy,just to name a few WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN WRITTEN OR MADE IF LOGIC AND NOT A WONDERFUL FERVID IMMAGINATION TOOK PRECEDENCE. fantasy be it in litterature, movies or modelling defies all logic it is the fruit of unconventional thinking hence fantasy.

    and i suppose we are talking about a fantasy creature here for as far as i know i have never had the pleasure of seeing a fairey.(that is the mytical creature and not the two legged male wingless type)or an ass with a human body,(though i have seen asses disguised as humans) immortal pointed eared elfs and aliens, green orcs harvested from funghi,lions that talk, minotaurs, beastman etc etc etc

    lol! lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  Dottore Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:18 am

    In the fantasy elements you mentioned are the eyes depicted in the colour of skin or mouths painted over as hair???? A vein is a vein is a vein Alex....if it is there...it has to be painted as a vein!

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