Sherman Alamein - (READY!!!!!!)

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    Sherman Alamein - (READY!!!!!!)

    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:28 pm

    I'm attempting a Sherman and word is that Matthew has built one or two and knows a thing or two!

    Question:
    See where the turret joins, there is a seam.
    a) Is there a weld seam on the original turret?


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    Re: Sherman Alamein - (READY!!!!!!)

    Post  skyhigh on Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:50 pm

    Does this help :cheers:

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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:57 pm


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    Post  skyhigh on Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:01 pm


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    Post  alexbb on Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:01 pm

    i guess marco answered your question but just in case
    YES THERE IS

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    nice to see youre back noel

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    Post  Ray on Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:12 pm

    Noel doing a Sherman Suspect ?

    Hope you're ok and not sick with a bit of Sherman Flu or anything Laughing

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    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:55 pm

    @ Thanks Marco! Good pictures! I can see the weld seam..... I'll try to start it this evening............ if my kids let me!

    @ Alex...Thanks....I'm back..... I hope! Wink

    @ Ray..... I like British Shermans (The guys that speak English, old chap) .... I have some good colour plates and information to do this one.

    Boy! Isn't modelling just great! Very Happy

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    Post  alexbb on Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:04 pm

    noel if you want i have two books specifically on british shermans
    just hoot

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    caution!

    Post  Dottore on Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:05 pm

    check your refs well...there IS a seam but i would ill advice you to use the mould seam as a weld seam. If i rem well DML have included a faint weld seam bit further down...

    To summarize..fill texture and re create a weld seam where it should be...

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    Post  Noel Petroni on Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:24 pm

    Finally....the expert!

    Thanks Matt..... you confirmed what I had in mind..........now I feel more confident!

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    Post  Noel Petroni on Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:30 pm

    I looked up some photos and not all turrets had a visible weld seam. So I did mine like this:

    Note the seam and the smooth surface area


    My tool!


    Paste applied


    Getting the desired effect


    Result


    Upgrading the shovel


    Unrealistic plastic bracket removed


    Used lead foil. Much better

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    Post  Ray on Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:19 pm

    Great SBS as always Noel.

    With what do you smooth the Tamiya putty? With liquid cement or?

    Keep them coming.

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    Post  bcauchi on Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:49 am

    Lovely step by step pics Noel, thanks for sharing. By the way, when you use Tamiya putty like that do you thin it down with some solvent?

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    Post  AdriaN on Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:37 pm

    I always wondered, how do you make putty wet & manageable again? Just like you add water to clay. i tried using thinner once. no luck..

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    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:11 pm

    I use tamiya liquid cement with tamiya putty to soften it, but take care cause it might effect the plastic.

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    Post  iCocker on Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:43 pm

    As JF hinted Tamiya or any other liquid cement work fine ...

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    Noel my friend....

    Post  Dottore on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:35 pm

    Youre talking to a certified shermanoholic here....

    Toss away that lead foil the attachment points are wrong...it has two bolted strips on either side...
    Thats the bad news...
    The good news is I have loads of spare PE from which I can get you the pristine tool tie-downs (free ofcourse!)
    Just send me a message here or mobile me...

    Re cast texture all you journeyed modelleres MUST have heard of Mr Surfacer 500...if not it is bound to be another Gator Glue hit....
    For next time Noel...could have given u some of the stuff...no comparison!

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    Post  Ray on Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:17 pm

    Dottore wrote:Youre talking to a certified shermanoholic here....

    Toss away that lead foil the attachment points are wrong...it has two bolted strips on either side...
    Thats the bad news...
    The good news is I have loads of spare PE from which I can get you the pristine tool tie-downs (free ofcourse!)
    Just send me a message here or mobile me...

    Re cast texture all you journeyed modelleres MUST have heard of Mr Surfacer 500...if not it is bound to be another Gator Glue hit....
    For next time Noel...could have given u some of the stuff...no comparison!

    Dottore

    You really bring tears to my eyes when I read words like these Sad especially when you chide us the journeyed modellers with a "discovery" of your own Laughing

    What hurts me most is that when it comes to simple ways of painting something with a brush, you fret about the BLOODY PURGING OF THE BRUSH lol!

    But having said that, I still SALUTE you for the Gator Glue Revelance lol!

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    Post  iCocker on Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:33 pm

    Journeyed modelers are those who can grab a paintbrush and do a straight line with it Dottore!

    By the way the paint brush has to be Sable WN Series 7 - OO ... or there are any cans available that can do the job Twisted Evil

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    Post  J.Fenech on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:12 pm

    who is afraid of the brush Suspect Suspect

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    Post  Ray on Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:22 pm

    J.Fenech wrote:who is afraid of the brush Suspect Suspect

    He who is afraid of the DARK I presume lol!

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    Post  Noel Petroni on Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:00 am

    To smoothen the Tamiya Putty I used cellulose thinner.

    Mr Matthew I heard about Mr Surfacer! But since I don't have it and needed it for a small area and being an experienced modeller, I improvised!! Wink

    As for the shovel bracket I took this from this picture! I don't see any bolts! Just welding! Can you tell them to get the Shermans standardized!

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    Post  Ray on Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:15 pm

    [Mr Matthew I heard about Mr Surfacer! But since I don't have it and needed it for a small area and being an experienced modeller, I improvised!!

    As for the shovel bracket I took this from this picture! I don't see any bolts! Just welding! Can you tell them to get the Shermans standardized!]


    IMPRESSIVE WORDS INDEED cheers cheers cheers

    Thumbs up from ALL the journeyed/experienced modellers I presume Noel!!! We owe you buddy cheers cheers cheers cheers

    Doc Roe, a word of advice if I may........if I were you I WOULD STICK TO THE GATOR GLUE WAVE and just stay there lol!

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    Post  alexbb on Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:58 pm

    [quote="Noel Petroni"]To smoothen the Tamiya Putty I used cellulose thinner.

    Mr Matthew I heard about Mr Surfacer! But since I don't have it and needed it for a small area and being an experienced modeller, I improvised!! Wink

    As for the shovel bracket I took this from this picture! I don't see any bolts! Just welding! Can you tell them to get the Shermans standardized!
    [

    NOEL i dont want to be a pain in the arrears but the shovel holder of this RESTORED SHERMAN is wrong, whoever restored this vehicle took a short cut im afraid so i hate to say this but the DOC is right.my offer for reference is still available
    I KNOW RAY I KNOW BUT WHATS DOCS IS DOCS apart from the fact that he is family
    lol! lol! lol! lol! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    spoke too soon sorry matt but we are both wrong on this one
    picture in militaria no 13 m4 sherman page 29 centre picture odf an operational sherman

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    Re: Sherman Alamein - (READY!!!!!!)

    Post  alexbb on Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:34 pm

    heres the incriminating evidence


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