*WIP* Panther F9F-5P, Revell 1:48

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    Re: *WIP* Panther F9F-5P, Revell 1:48

    Post  Joseph on Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:50 am

    Adrian

    First of all do not thin paint that much (what thinner are you using), that it will be like spraying water, you should try and thin paint 40/60 (approx) the later being thinner. Ensure that you have the right air pressure, pls do not ask me for the right psi because this depends on the consistency of your mix.
    Then for spraying you start applying several coats, yes you need to re-spray on the same area but let the paint dry a bit before you apply the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.............coat, you have to continue going like this until you have an even colour all around.
    Maybe if you use acrylics you find it easier to spray paint as this dries a lot faster than enamels so the chance of ending up with orange peel is very slim.

    You can also use a small hairdryer to dry the paint between coats and so quicken the process.

    I hope that you find this explanation useful, else if you still don't get it, we will try and do a demonsrtration at club.

    If you end up with orange peel, you have to wet sand with a grade that conforms with the grade of orange peel, i.e. if the orange peel is deep you can start with grade 800 and then finish of with 1000 or 1200.

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:42 am

    Joseph wrote:Adrian

    First of all do not thin paint that much (what thinner are you using), that it will be like spraying water, you should try and thin paint 40/60 (approx) the later being thinner. Ensure that you have the right air pressure, pls do not ask me for the right psi because this depends on the consistency of your mix.
    Then for spraying you start applying several coats, yes you need to re-spray on the same area but let the paint dry a bit before you apply the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.............coat, you have to continue going like this until you have an even colour all around.
    Maybe if you use acrylics you find it easier to spray paint as this dries a lot faster than enamels so the chance of ending up with orange peel is very slim.

    You can also use a small hairdryer to dry the paint between coats and so quicken the process.

    I hope that you find this explanation useful, else if you still don't get it, we will try and do a demonsrtration at club.

    If you end up with orange peel, you have to wet sand with a grade that conforms with the grade of orange peel, i.e. if the orange peel is deep you can start with grade 800 and then finish of with 1000 or 1200.

    J

    I thin about 50/50. i usuall continue adding thinner and test spray until i do not have big spray blobs. Painting is not problem! the problem is... spraying the gloss! i think it is the culprit. I thin with white spirit. I find 20 to 15 psi is best.
    When the weather is cooler, ill give it another gloss and buy the 1200 and bring it over cos im abit scared to sand it! Sad

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    Post  Joseph on Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:56 am

    To sand the varnish always use the appropriate sand paper for varnish, the ironmonger will know waht type to give you just tell him that you need it to sand varnish, the best grades I find are 400 and 600.

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    Post  AdriaN on Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:33 am

    Forgot about this topic! I need to take better shots.
    I wet sanded the horrible orange peel. Glossed it. Sanded some more parts. glossed again. now ill panel wash, touch up ALOT of sanding mistakes! and spray again, and its soon ready.. about fuc**** time ax dejjaqt Twisted Evil I hope it doenst end up looking like a toy pale




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    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:22 am

    Hi Adrian...

    No No definitely NOT...It does NOT look like a toy. Ypu've done a very clean and sharp work and the final result will pay you back.

    I like it!

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    Post  bcauchi on Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:00 am

    it looks damn good, I think that you managed to rectify the few things that were bothering you. The paint looks good and so do the decals, far from looking like a toy. Great job.

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:43 am

    Model was panel washed and given an overall light wash to make 'streaking'.

    Im abit worried cos the aircraft has gone from glossy to matt/glossy patches because of the wash and thinner residue. I hope after the final gloss coat the patches wont show pale Question Secondly most panel washing doesnt even show!

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    Post  J.Fenech on Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:24 pm

    can you post some pictures please

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    Post  AdriaN on Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:43 pm

    AAAAAAAAHHHHH! The moment ive been waiting for! After the party i finally removed all the white tack from the wheel bays and cockpit. Which had been stuck on since JULY! & after 5 months stuck on i was really expecting it to pull of all the paint... but thankfully it didnt in the end! Laughing The model felt considerably light after- just to show how much tack was realy stuck in there!

    Lovely contrast of green and blue Rolling Eyes all what i need is a wash


    Where the green & blue meets is a bit untidy because of the white tack Crying or Very sad


    problem! Crying or Very sad it did pull of some finish and there are pieces of plastic or primer showing around the edges of wheel bays. Its gonna be a problem to touch up since both green and blue coloures are mixes i made and finished ages ago! It gives it a chipped look, but i think it looks ugly.

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    Post  skyhigh on Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:56 pm

    Oh Adrian come on finish this model it looks good as I told you yesterday, Yes I think you can replace those cip marks with metal paint or silver pen.. cheers

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    Post  AdriaN on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:32 pm

    Panther is finally up on its legs!


    Drybrushed with yellow and washed







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    Post  Joseph on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:46 pm

    Very good and nice work indeed, I have to admit that, that future thing is good Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    Keep up the good work.

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    Post  AdriaN on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:57 pm

    Joseph wrote:Very good and nice work indeed, I have to admit that, that future thing is good Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    Keep up the good work.

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    It is the best Twisted Evil but its not future that stuck on the wheels, drybrushed and gave a washed Evil or Very Mad buy my hands

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    Post  bcauchi on Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:00 pm

    That is a lovely finish you have there and with some patience you can make the areas where you pulled paint off to look like chips and they are in the right place, around the access panel so it would naturally chip. I think you did a great job and the model looks really nice.

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    Post  AdriaN on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:34 pm

    BULLOCKS! i put its tires on and when placed it on its feet it fell back on its ars! Neutral i guess i didnt put in enough weight! Evil or Very Mad

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    Post  skyhigh on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:18 pm

    You still can there is a gap between the inst panel , you fill from there some leed... cheers

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    Post  bcauchi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:09 pm

    Adrian, do not give up now, it is great. you will find someway to fill in some lead shot to put in the weight. One of the places is the one Marco indicated and you may also cut the nose cone and fill that up too. If the worst comes to the worst, make a simple nice base for the model and glue it to the base. No problem there.

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:45 pm

    Time to combat weight problem! I put 2 bolts, a nail behind the panel. Those 2 twisted things are twised solder material which is heavy and soft! They were stuck over the bolts.





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    Post  J.Fenech on Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:04 am

    it is coming along nice, keep updating

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    Post  Alex Kontiveis on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:03 am

    Very interesting Tip Adrian. I will try it.
    Your bird is coming up gorgeous!

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:02 pm

    Ok more progress
    Its amaizing, even the simplest of all things gives you problems! The dashboard simply wouldnt fit... i had to remove some plastic to get it to fit! and the camera lenses were so small i kept messing up.

    I painted the 2 side camera lenses. The lenses were painted silver than a blob of blue glass paint was put in the lens.



    The lense closed up


    All camera lenses

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:07 pm

    CANOPY TIME Twisted Evil

    I ''restored'' the canopy. I masked it all up again and had to make the blue mix again (which came abit too dark). After that i used car polish. It gave it a shine but didnt hide scratches. Now most modellers would stop at this stage but i decided to dip it in KLEAR Razz and no surprise the Klear slipped off the waxy surface. So to combat this i kept brushing over it and at the same time removing any eccess. and funnily enough it worked. Maybe it broke down the waxy layer? I dipped it in twice. Scratches are still visible but not as much as before.

    Nice and shiny Cool


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    Post  Ray on Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:50 pm

    Ah Thank God that you've started using the 1000 ltrs of KLEAR cheers

    Joking apart, nice work overall and really nice touch with the cameras Adrian Cool

    Keep up the good work mate cheers

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    Post  jojjemannen on Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:52 pm

    Nice work there Adrian!!

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    Post  AdriaN on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:04 pm

    Ray wrote:Ah Thank God that you've started using the 1000 ltrs of KLEAR cheers

    Joking apart, nice work overall and really nice touch with the cameras Adrian Cool

    Keep up the good work mate cheers

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    Eeeeee i forgot to say, after the blue glass paint blob, i added an extra blob of........??? Surprised

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