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Wayne Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:53 am

Today was do or die... Deadline is getting close so got stuck in and shaded the underside panel lines and over-sprayed the entire surfaces in RLM 76

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After that, a spot of masking and the first coats of green where applied:

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Next up is shading the green areas and removing the masking... hopefully I get a nicely feathered demarcation line. Fingers crossed Wink

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Ray Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:31 am

Looking good Wayne

Praying for that nicely feathered demarcation line

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in nannu pec Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:14 am

Ray wrote:Looking good Wayne

Praying for that nicely feathered demarcation line

agree wayne.....ejja lestih.... Smile

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bcauchi Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:01 am

A big prosit to you my friend. It is certainly a DO and no die! You did an excellent job. All you need now are some highlights. The dark shading is great, not overdone. The best thing is when you try yourself and manage. You will develop your own technique. Well done again and keep it up for the topsides. You can incorportate the highlights into the matt final fiish if you wish. I do that many times especially on complicated German schemes. a small drop of white mixed with the matt varnish and go over the areas you want to lighten but thin it a lot so that you build it up slowly.

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Wayne Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:14 am

I still had problems with running paint and spidering when shading. I think acrylics are not the best for this. Even when thinned right down, they tend to clog the airbrush when using the fine needle. so one minute you're spraying the next it stops and you have to fight the urge to pull the trigger further back as it will suddenly unclog and splatter all over the place.

Trouble is I didn't have any suitable enamel colour as it would have performed better.

Having said that, when using the medium needle, acrylics are a dream as they dry almost instantaneously. Too bad about the dubious authenticity of the colour.

Later today I will attempt the upper surface shading and apply some RLM 81 on the engine cowls.

If all goes well, maybe, just maybe, this bird will be finished in time.

Ironically, the Germans managed to design, build, fly and operate this machine in 25% of the time it took me to get this far lol!

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skyhigh Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:06 am

Ironically, the Germans managed to design, build, fly and operate this machine in 25% of the time it took me to get this far lol!

Tajba din Wayne .. lol!

For me it looks brilliant , from the photos.... cheers

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Wayne Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:24 am

Another small note to potential LifeColour users... The upper surface colour is supposed to be RLM 82 but Lifecolour's RLM 82 is way off. Instead I ended up using LifeColour's RLM 70 which looks pretty spot on for RLM82 Shocked

In short, you might want to re-label your colour pots Neutral

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bcauchi Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:19 pm

Wayne i am so used to enamels i would not know how to spray with acrylics. I am totally lost with them and i have tried but never managed. I think that the day when i will not find any more enamels to buy is the day i will stop spraying models. But you are doing a great job. Keep it up and get it done. You need to set yourself a programme to finish on time. i used to do that every time i went abroad. Thank God that phase of my modeling life is over.

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Wayne Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:58 pm

Today's progress...

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The demarcation line is far from perfect... suggestions anyone?

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Next up is finishing off the gun troughs and the barrels.

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iCocker Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:25 pm

Wayne acrylics are versatile as enemels only that you have to forget the enemel technique ... if you are getting glogging it only means your mix is thick and pressure is high ... the mix should be as thin and liquid as water or milk and the pressure not more then 2 bar ...

The trick is practice and find the right mix for your hand ...

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Ray Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:00 am

Re demarcation line

Try & cut a paper template of that curvature, affix it with blu tack & lightly spray away from & over the edge

Judging from the pics, you need to retouch the lower colour first, then apply the upper colour in "my way/suggestion"

Hope it helps & Good Luck

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Wayne Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 am

Ray wrote:Re demarcation line

Try & cut a paper template of that curvature, affix it with blu tack & lightly spray away from & over the edge

Judging from the pics, you need to retouch the lower colour first, then apply the upper colour in "my way/suggestion"

Hope it helps & Good Luck

Ray,

That is exactly the technique I used. You can see the paper template fixed to the plane in a previous post. I think the blu-tak marbles might have been too thick in some places resulting in the over-spray!

This is a learning process for me. Worst case, the bird does not get to fly with me to Telford.

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Ray Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:33 pm

Wayne wrote:

Ray wrote:Re demarcation line

Try & cut a paper template of that curvature, affix it with blu tack & lightly spray away from & over the edge

Judging from the pics, you need to retouch the lower colour first, then apply the upper colour in "my way/suggestion"

Hope it helps & Good Luck

Ray,

That is exactly the technique I used. You can see the paper template fixed to the plane in a previous post. I think the blu-tak marbles might have been too thick in some places resulting in the over-spray!

This is a learning process for me. Worst case, the bird does not get to fly with me to Telford.

My 2c worth was ALL I could offer

I'm sorry for I don't know anymore

However don't start to PANIC just yet as you have AMPLE time to correct & address whatever is needed to get this bird in his birdcage & MAKE him fly to Telford with you

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skyhigh Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:52 pm

Ray wrote:

Wayne wrote:

Ray wrote:Re demarcation line

Try & cut a paper template of that curvature, affix it with blu tack & lightly spray away from & over the edge

Judging from the pics, you need to retouch the lower colour first, then apply the upper colour in "my way/suggestion"

Hope it helps & Good Luck

Ray,

That is exactly the technique I used. You can see the paper template fixed to the plane in a previous post. I think the blu-tak marbles might have been too thick in some places resulting in the over-spray!

This is a learning process for me. Worst case, the bird does not get to fly with me to Telford.

My 2c worth was ALL I could offer

I'm sorry for I don't know anymore

However don't start to PANIC just yet as you have AMPLE time to correct & address whatever is needed to get this bird in his birdcage & MAKE him fly to Telford with you

Agree 100% come on Wayne... cheers

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bcauchi Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:08 pm

Wayne don't give up, these things take time, go over the offensive area and do it again. All you need to do is go over the blue and the green again. Don't worry even if the shade is not perfect, at this time of the war, everything was acceptable and i am sure that nothing was perfect. I never use blue tac but hold the paper next to the model with one hand and spray with the other. The paper has to be nearly touching the model and make sure that the airbrush is at 90 degrees to the part being sprayed. Over 90 deg. no feathering, 90 degrees perfect feathering, less than 90 deg. the paint goes under the paper and you get too much feathering. So try it out again, it is only one area of the model.

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Guest Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:47 pm

It is not that bad from the pics, it needs some corrections but nothing that cannot be achieved. Keep trying, do no give up now

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Ray Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:59 pm

bcauchi wrote:Wayne don't give up, these things take time, go over the offensive area and do it again. All you need to do is go over the blue and the green again. Don't worry even if the shade is not perfect, at this time of the war, everything was acceptable and i am sure that nothing was perfect. I never use blue tac but hold the paper next to the model with one hand and spray with the other. The paper has to be nearly touching the model and make sure that the airbrush is at 90 degrees to the part being sprayed. Over 90 deg. no feathering, 90 degrees perfect feathering, less than 90 deg. the paint goes under the paper and you get too much feathering. So try it out again, it is only one area of the model.

Wise Words indeed up to & MOSTLY on the spraying technique so GO FOR IT Wayne like The True Kraut you are

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skyhigh Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:44 pm

Come on Wayne ,.... never give up never surrender........ bounce

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Wayne Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:23 pm

Today's progress...

Fixed the demarcation lines, re-did the upper surface shading and painted tabs on the tail fin in RLM 23.

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Engine cowl inner surfaces were given a coat Alclad Duralumin over gloss black base and oversprayed using Alclad Aluminium.

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Ray Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:49 am

You see, you keep cutting your heart for nothing

Looks good so keep at it at will

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Gordon Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:22 am

well done wayne

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bcauchi Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:25 am

Prosit Wayne it is looking really great. And to think you were giving up.

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in nannu pec Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:17 am

bcauchi wrote:Prosit Wayne it is looking really great. And to think you were giving up.

qed tara when there's a will there's a way...prosit Wayne...
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skyhigh Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:24 am

Very good Wayne.. cheers

..very good work... cheers

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Tancred Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:00 am

Looking good Wayne, keep it up Cool

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