Bf109 F4 Trop.

in nannu pec Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:11 am

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in nannu pec Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:11 am

Awesome extraordinary detail Brian...prosit habib
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iCocker Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:37 am

Great detail Bri, ejja let's see the bird painted up ... with this you should combine a Kubelwagen, pilots had a habit to use these as their 'personal' cars ...

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skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:23 am

Brian again , may I reminde you, and May be you already know... about the canopy sliding glass ..the front slid under the back ones..ok.. cheers

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Ray Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:58 am

Brian,

We Want Paint

We Are Tired of ALL these "detail pics" qas li ha jtir, so please send Marco to getting waved (JIXXEJJER ) & SPRAY/PAINT some please

RayCaruana Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:23 pm

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RayCaruana Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:23 pm

Ray wrote:Brian,

We Want Paint

We Are Tired of ALL these "detail pics" qas li ha jtir, so please send Marco to getting waved (JIXXEJJER ) & SPRAY/PAINT some please

Good one Ray lol!

Veru ta !!!! lol!

skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:45 pm

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skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:45 pm

RayCaruana wrote:

Ray wrote:Brian,

We Want Paint

We Are Tired of ALL these "detail pics" qas li ha jtir, so please send Marco to getting waved (JIXXEJJER ) & SPRAY/PAINT some please

Good one Ray Veru ta !!!!

And I tought that this is modeling ... Sad

talking with modeler's...and not kit builder's Evil or Very Mad

Ok ok time to pack .. Neutral

..and find another serious modeler's forum..... cheers

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Don't listen to them Skyhigh, we need your expertise as much as we need your next model Very Happy

but we cannot live without both!!!!

So please keep the info coming study

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bcauchi Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:51 pm

I don;t think that i will attempt that ventilation slit. I don't exactly know how it works. Was it just an open slit or did it have some sort of provision to close it if you wanted. I see it hard to imagine that it had to be left open all the time whatever the conditions.

As for the de-icing pipe, i will try looking for it on desert aircraft. I could not see it on any other F's except the one photo you posted. It is pretty obvious to see so i will try looking at some desert F's and see if i can spot it. If i can it is no problem to make.

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bcauchi Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:52 pm

Ivan do you know of a 32nd scale kubel, i might be tempted.

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skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:02 pm

bcauchi wrote:Ivan do you know of a 32nd scale kubel, i might be tempted.

http://www.strikeforcehobbies.com/product116.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Forces-of-Valor-1-32-German-Kubelwagen-Type-82-1-32-Scale-82305-RETIRED-/190867377796

http://www.meijer.com/s/forces-of-valor-1-32-german-kubelwagen-type-82-model-vehicle/_/R-268167

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bcauchi Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:05 pm

Marco that is a die cast model. I think if i decide to do one, i will settle for a 35th scale, it is very close. It worked with the kettenkrad for the me262 and besides, the figures i have for the base are also 35th scale. I am trying to check out that de-icing pipe on desert F's.

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skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:08 pm

bcauchi wrote:I don;t think that i will attempt that ventilation slit. I don't exactly know how it works. Was it just an open slit or did it have some sort of provision to close it if you wanted. I see it hard to imagine that it had to be left open all the time whatever the conditions.

As for the de-icing pipe, i will try looking for it on desert aircraft. I could not see it on any other F's except the one photo you posted. It is pretty obvious to see so i will try looking at some desert F's and see if i can spot it. If i can it is no problem to make.

apart that it looks there's a small handle , for some reason it is a ventilation .... may be you can fix just a tiny acetate strip....... scratch

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skyhigh Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:11 pm

bcauchi wrote:Marco that is a die cast model. I think if i decide to do one, i will settle for a 35th scale, it is very close. It worked with the kettenkrad for the me262 and besides, the figures i have for the base are also 35th scale. I am trying to check out that de-icing pipe on desert F's.

even me , but could not find on dessert aircraft.........

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bcauchi Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:20 pm

It might have been a special aircraft used for high altitude. Even the other pics you posted don't show that tube. Also note that even the flare gun opening has been closed. Probably to avoid cold air from entering the cockpit. I think it was a one off case or a particular group of aircraft and will note make it on mine. It is not seen anywhere on the F's in the schiffer book and there are some pretty good closeups of the front part of the canopy.

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iCocker Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:31 pm

1/35 aware of, the best ones are dragon/belgo and tamiya you can find also the sand tyred type. But both type of tyres on kubelwagens were used in Afrika, just note tat No plate should be W not WH for Luftwaffe. It would be nice as inside would be panzergrey and outside painted desert, nice contrast with the bird ...

Monogram used to do a 1/32 one but probably on ebay you might manage to catch the vintage model and not up to those 2 standards ...

Maybe also an umbrella was a prominent feature in the desert Smile

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Ray Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:11 pm

bcauchi wrote:Ivan do you know of a 32nd scale kubel, i might be tempted.

Go for it Bri

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Alex Kontiveis Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:58 am

Hi guys, Hi Brian.
I really missed a very interesting conversation here... !!!!

Go Ahead!!! Although I wish for more details such as a DB exposed, I have to admit that your model comes up very impressive!!!

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bcauchi Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:55 pm

Alex good to hear from you. I don;t have time to expose the engine and besides, i already did that for my G. The engines are very similar and i don;t like to repeat the same thing. I am trying for a kubel and will probably include one in the setup. Soon painting time. the wings are glued to the fuselage and i have started painting parts like flaps, undercarriage, wheel wells etc. Will try to get some pics up soon.

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bcauchi Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:00 pm

Marco I just realized through seeing photos that what you thought was a slit in the upper glass of the central part of the canopy is not a slit at all. It is a handle from where the glass could be slid open since in the F models, even the top glass was made in two parts and could be slid open. It is a clear handle probably also made from glass or some transparent material.

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skyhigh Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:22 pm

bcauchi wrote:Marco I just realized through seeing photos that what you thought was a slit in the upper glass of the central part of the canopy is not a slit at all. It is a handle from where the glass could be slid open since in the F models, even the top glass was made in two parts and could be slid open. It is a clear handle probably also made from glass or some transparent material.

Well as I already told you before, a peace of clear acetate will do..

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bcauchi Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:33 pm

Here is some progress work on the plane. The pit is nearly done. I just need to glue the gunsight in place and some levers. the wheel wells are done too. This time sand got in everywhere, can't get rid pf the damn stuff, no wonder they had canvas covers.
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