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    Post  skyhigh Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:59 pm

    Ray this is the Fokker you were talking about...
    Fokker F27. 600. 5A-DLR. libya. 1986


    and found it here

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    Post  skyhigh Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:08 pm

    Ray if you want more detail it's here....

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    Post  Ray Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:14 pm

    You Are an ANGEL Marco Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

    It is as if I took those pics when I passed from near this wreck this time round a couple of weeks ago cheerscheerscheerscheerscheerscheerscheers

    And not forgetting I was nearby in 1986 when this crash at the desert airstrip of Fox 9 or Gialo 59 occured I love youI love youI love youI love youI love youI love youI love you


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    Post  skyhigh Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:16 pm

    Ray it was 1986 ...this happened, and if you look a the 2nd  link it's like a scarecrow now...cheers 
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    Post  Ray Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:27 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Ray it was 1986 ...this happened, and if you look a the 2nd  link it's like a scarecrow now...cheers 
    Yes I did infact I edited my post Embarassed

    From the memory of 27yrs past, I thought this had occured during a "Gibli" (SandStorm) that is why I kept thinking this occured in 1985 as I eventually quit Christian Intl. in January/February of 1986 & Gibli's occur mostly in May Suspect

    So actually, this event occured before I left the desert in 1986 Twisted Evil

    Here is the Narrative, extracted/copied & pasted from Marco's discovered link...
    http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19869999-1:cheers: 

    5A-DLR approached Giallo at midday in clear weather. The North-South runway was under maintenance and had a 2 metre trench dug across it about halfway along and the southern surface had been removed. The East-West runway was in use. The aircraft touched down normally on the on the South runway and was unable to stop before the trench which it hit at about 50 knots. The port undercarriage leg collapsed and the aircraft slid to a halt on its belly. There were no injuries. The undercarriage, port propeller and fuselage underside were damaged.
    The aircraft was still there one year later so was essentially abandoned.


    Again, Marco you are a Star I love youI love youI love youI love youI love youI love youI love you 
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    Post  Ray Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:37 pm

    The Terrorist @ Work lol!

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    Post  Ray Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:42 pm

    Petrified Wood aged @ Millions of Years when the Desert was a Forest Cool

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    Awesome Desert Terrain cheers Just Love It  I love you

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    Post  bcauchi Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:06 pm

    Prosit Ray, some really nice desert pics, awesome scenes. And we thought the desert was boring!
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    Post  Ray Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:23 pm

    Bri, I can assure you that the Desert is MAGNIFICENT I love you cheers Twisted Evil
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    Post  Wayne Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:40 am

    Awe inspiring to say the least.


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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:53 am

    Ray... those x2 AK look very realistic! (Tell me how I know they are plastic toys..... well for starters you would not be able to hold the real thing with one hand! And the second.... real AK are for men! Smile 

    Now, I like your angry terrorist face....... very convincing............. and very scary....... but I think the administrator should remove it because there are kids on this forum!

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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:58 am

    Quoting Ray from another thread:
    Noel, I am back & I am staying here this time bro.......too unstable down there, Desert & Tripoli alike with Toyota pick ups being hijacked & personnel left stranded & shocked & sometimes even slightly wounded from ricochet bullets fired from AK-47's towards the damn TARMAC, as happened the day before I flew in from the desert, with a company car hijacked as it neared a "sleeping policeman" (I know, I know I used to be one ) & hooded gunmen firing in air & the ground

    I know Ray! My wife was there for a month and a half and they stayed indoors all the time!!! Even in Tripoli it's dangerous. One evening they were going to a park where kids play.... thank God they cancelled it!!! That evening two groups of militia argued and the intruders decided to get drunk and shot widely at the crowd killing some women and children!!!!!!!
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:14 pm

    Mela... Libya became... like the wild..wild..west...movies...Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil 
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    Post  Ray Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:05 pm

    skyhigh wrote:Mela... Libya became... like the wild..wild..west...movies...Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil 
    Maybe not yet Evil or Very Mad  but very near Twisted Evil 
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:31 pm

    Ray how about getting one of those AK 47's with you next time? They look really nice. I think that overall, things are worse and not better since the revolution. There is too much instability.
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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:01 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Ray how about getting one of those AK 47's with you next time?  They look really nice. I think that overall, things are worse and not better since the revolution.  There is too much instability.
    That's right brian! Anarchy.......... a state of lawlessness and political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority.

    Libyans are starting to say that if this government does not have the balls to control the militias..... than it was better under Gaddafi rule!
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    Post  Ray Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:07 am

    bcauchi wrote:Ray how about getting one of those AK 47's with you next time?  They look really nice. I think that overall, things are worse and not better since the revolution.  There is too much instability.
    Bri, there will be no next time I'm afraid as I'm staying on The Rock for good Evil or Very Mad 

    Unfortunetly, unless they come to understand that one's FREEDOM stops at the borders of another's FREEDOM, then I'm afraid the War was in Vain Sad 

    A shame really, as the country has MUCH to offer Twisted Evil  and I can assure the whole World that if we only owned just two Oil Wells out of the MANY there are scattered in the desert, then we would surely say id-Dinja Taghna Lkoll cheers 
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    Post  iCocker Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:26 am

    Beautiful Ray

    One question as you had eyewitness and this has always been an argument over the net ... so from the looks depends the regions or the sun looks like not all sand is the same especially colour, some is yellowish, other is red and I read that in some areas it is also grey ... an other thing and surely you noticed this heavy vehicles sit over the sand how deep it goes ... from the looks tyres do not go so down though teh terrain is dust ... it looks like vehicles fly over the sand Smile This helps mate for dioramas!!!!

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    Post  Ray Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:55 pm

    iCocker wrote:Beautiful Ray

    One question as you had eyewitness and this has always been an argument over the net ... so from the looks depends the regions or the sun looks like not all sand is the same especially colour, some is yellowish, other is red and I read that in some areas it is also grey ... an other thing and surely you noticed this heavy vehicles sit over the sand how deep it goes ... from the looks tyres do not go so down though teh terrain is dust ... it looks like vehicles fly over the sand :)This helps mate for dioramas!!!!

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    Ivan. as you well noticed, the desert is not just plain, boring sand but is made up of different strata, colour & tesxture Twisted Evil 

    Vehicles & Tyres float or sink according to speed, terrain, tyre pressure & surface area.

    In the following pics you can see our fully loaded supply truck SUNK in soft sand pale  and also our pick up truck Sad 

    In both instances, even though the terrain was SOFT, both drivers even though both of them are brilliant desert rat drivers, were a bit reckless IMHO Suspect 

    However having said that, the terrain itself can be misleading & as I said, while you can literally fly off the sand at the right speed, the right tyre pressure & the right momentum, sometimes you encounter deep tracks all of a sudden & you instinctively brake affraid  & BAM you're stuck & sunk Sad 

    I had the pleasure to drive in the desert (mhux suppost ghax ma kellix licenzja tad-desert) obviously guided by a local driver as otherwise I would have ended either in Chad, Sudan, Eygpt or Tunisia lol! 

    It was fun while it lasted as I said cheers 


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    Post  RayCaruana Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:08 pm

    Mela erga ejja maghna sabih!!! I love you Sewwa taghmel!!cheers 
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    Post  bcauchi Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:18 pm

    Whilst i am sorry that you had to give up your job, on the other hand i am happy that you are back full time with us. The club is not the same without you! You made your presence felt even from there but being here is another thing. Welcome back. There might be other opportunities which are less risky and maybe pay well too, who knows.
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    Post  Ray Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:44 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Whilst i am sorry that you had to give up your job, on the other hand i am happy that you are back full time with us. The club is not the same without you!  You made your presence felt even from there but being here is another thing.  Welcome back.  There might be other opportunities which are less risky and maybe pay well too, who knows.
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