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    Post  skyhigh Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:23 pm

    Dramatic shots of a downed libyan aircraft ,what a waste of human life's for the selfishness and stubborn of some people.... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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    Post  Ray Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:14 pm

    Watching the news now as I was @ work......looks like a Mig 23 or 27 pale Embarassed or?

    Yes Marco you're right what a waste of life for "Il Profumo del Potere" as the Italian saying goes Evil or Very Mad
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    Post  Guest Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:30 pm

    French rafales are in action over Libya, and have hit a libyan military vechile, confirmed, but did not specify what type.

    As for war, it has been there from the dawn of men, and they have also shaped mankind in oneway or the other.
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    Post  skyhigh Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:30 pm

    It's been sad that the downed plane is one of the rebels side, and the pilot did not make it..... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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    Post  AdriaN Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:05 am

    what a waste of a plane Sad
    Pilot ejected too late. if im not mistaken the rebels shot down their own plane!
    Today we saw the french rafales flying over us
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    Post  iCocker Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:10 pm

    It is an unconfirmed if pilot is dead or who shot that MIG. For sure it was a REBEL MIG and according to them shot by the loyalists, probable as they were almost in Bengazhi perimeters. On the other side the coalition forces have already made their mark, the French Mirages have engaged a convoy of T72 tanks and also KO some others and a Palmiera artillery unit. Tornados and Typhoons have engaged other targets and seems USA used B2s. As usual main barage happened to be the elusive Tomahawks missiles. This evening more Typhoons and Tornados were on their way to Italy and from France, Qatar planes are on their way to Benghazi, the first Arab planes to be used in coalition.

    Adrain I guess will be seeing much more planes over us ...
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    Post  iCocker Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:27 pm

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    This is what the French left from a Palmaria artillery units.

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    Post  Guest Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:40 pm

    Armor vs Airpower Suspect - Armor looses big time!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12798617
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    Post  iCocker Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:51 pm

    ... and this is how they drop down MIGs!

    The spotter

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    The AntiAircraft moveable platform ... guess why they are never caught on radar!

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    Post  alexbb Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:38 pm

    J.Fenech wrote:Armor vs Airpower Suspect - Armor looses big time!!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12798617
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    yes joe but air power alone never won any wars its still up to the foot slogging soldier to sweep up in the end
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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:32 pm

    Not even MacGyver would have thought to use a computer desk chair with castors and reclining back as an anti aircraft platform!!

    I can see potential ideas for dioramas!

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    Post  iCocker Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:37 pm

    ... and now the stealth acrobatic mode! Important to have trendy glasses!

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    No wonder they asked for aid!
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    Post  Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:45 pm

    Actually they are sighting glasses - with incorporated range finder, targeting microchip etc..., but it seems that it has malfunctioned in this case!! They have long way to go before even thinking of moving foward towards tripoli
    p.s. nice uniform, camoflaged fatigues and gim shoes!! True that necessity is the mother of all inventions, but this is taking it over! I cannot imagine the accuracy of such weapon, held in this position and in full auto fire! not even Rambo fought in such a position!
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    Post  skyhigh Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:52 pm



    I think it's a new tactic to shoot down aircraft ..NB Harold ps note... Arrow Question Exclamation Shocked

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    Post  Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:40 pm

    skyhigh wrote: Dramatic shots of a downed libyan aircraft ,what a waste of human life's for the selfishness and stubborn of some people.... Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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    What a waste of an aircraft !!!!!!!

    By the way it's the leggendary Mig-23
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    Post  iCocker Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:12 pm

    This what happens to planes on land when armour roll ...

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    Post  iCocker Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:41 pm

    And now the yoga AA fight mode ...

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    ... and here is the bird he was aiming at!

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    Post  Guest Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:45 am

    I feel very sorry for the leggendry aircrafts like the Su-24, Mig-23, Mirages and all the military that is a product of the glorious cold war era and is being destroyed during the bombardments over Libya. God forgive them because they don't know what they are doing !!!
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    Post  Wayne Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:59 am

    Not sure about this but it seems that a US plane was downed/crashed over libya...


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    Post  Guest Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:05 pm

    It' true! It suffered from a mechanical failure. F-15 Eagle
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    Post  Wayne Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:09 pm

    What a waste! (both sides I mean)


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    Post  iCocker Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:30 pm

    RAF wrote:I feel very sorry for the leggendry aircrafts like the Su-24, Mig-23, Mirages and all the military that is a product of the glorious cold war era and is being destroyed during the bombardments over Libya. God forgive them because they don't know what they are doing !!!

    What was glorious about the cold war ...it was just a waste of time and resources, as no fruit was gained from ... ah anzi the worst went to the CCCP!

    as for what is happening in Libya I guess we know what they are doing, people are revolting turning into a Civil War to have a 40 year regime down and Ghaddafi and his hench men wants to hold on to their power ... no big mathematics mate! Let's face it it happened in France, England, it happened in Malta during the French occupation ... it just took ages to happen in the african continent!

    So getting back to planes, someone over Times blog stated that it is not a MIG23 but an SU24 as tail is longer, you are the experts ...

    Here is something from the hands of the rebels trying to fly this MIG21 another engine failure ... another loss of vintage stuff!

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    On the other hand strange enough all loyalist front lines do not have adequate AA cover, they know the coalition is on them and their convoys, tanks and artillery units are just sittting ducks, I find this very strange ... maybe they are up to some surprises?

    And here is the nightmare of many Maltese, the old but reliable Scud missle + MAZ launcher and probably why we are standing on the fence ... captured in Benghazi!

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    Post  AdriaN Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:27 pm

    its quite hard to tell the difference from this photo. i think its a mig23 because if you look closely the elevons trailing edge extends further than the exhaust while the su24s elevons do not.

    so do the rebels have pilots or did they just jump in the seat and pressed all the buttons until they got airborne? Suspect
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    Post  Guest Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:50 pm

    AdriaN wrote:its quite hard to tell the difference from this photo. i think its a mig23 because if you look closely the elevons trailing edge extends further than the exhaust while the su24s elevons do not.

    so do the rebels have pilots or did they just jump in the seat and pressed all the buttons until they got airborne? Suspect

    They got defected pilots
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    Post  Wayne Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:54 pm

    The one in Ivan's photo is definitely a Mig21 (as he says) while to me, judging by the shape of the wings, the otherone is a Mig23. I must admit though that I wasn't sure given the poor quality of the photo, and I'm no expert on jets, especially post-korean war era russian birds.


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