Sherman Alamein - (READY!!!!!!)

I weathered the tracks with pigments and fitted them to the Sherman.

Just now I was fitting the PE fenders and side skirts.... boy!...... not very well designed to be fitted! I am having a 10 minute break

Sand shields are done!

Tomorrow...maybe I'll spray the Sherman!

looking good
keep em rolling

Noel

Why have you not weathered the underside and wheels before you finished the tracks and shields? As it is it's gonna be a headache trying to weather that area. Something I advise as I experienced this issue when I was doing my postwar Sherman hybrid is that sand colour is a pain to achieve weathering, though I used a lot of dusting in mine, if I was doing it again I would work more with oils like what Mario Eens made with his Desesert Pz1 last Euro.

If you are working with pigments as well try to use mixes of different colour ... leave the lightest one for highlighting. In mine I left the sand shields as the last resort and placed them when complete finished ... use also some good filters as I adviced that desert yellow is a nightmare to get a balanced weathering effect ... too much light pigments would look like it has gone through a sand storm and no depth in the overall effect ... lucky you have some blotches of other colours and chipping to make some contrast ... keep them coming!

PS the last wheel, the idler spoked type was an all metal wheel, no rubber!

Image of my hybrid before it went to further weathering and highlighting, as the first go was almost lost on the colour ...

Ivan

his idler wheel is painted to represent polished metal in contact with the tracks as in the profile he painted no rubber....

Also caution with the MG mount maybe you need to apply some filler where it mates with the cupola ring and put a dab of putty to represent the welding where its arms meet the cupola...

Love the sand skirts...do you weld the PE these days or use cyano?

Dottore

Why have you not weathered the underside and wheels before you finished the tracks and shields?

Didn't feel like it!! I'll tackle the weathering in one go! I feel better that way as I'll be concentrating and mixing washes and pigments on the spot........... I might not get the same colour if I do it a week after!!

.. lucky you have some blotches of other colours and chipping to make some contrast ... keep them coming!

I still did not meditate on what choice of washes I'm going to use....... as soon as I'll have it painted and chipped, my brain will start it's process of figuring out what washes and pigments to use!

PS the last wheel, the idler spoked type was an all metal wheel, no rubber!

Matthew is right on that! Plus they will take some washes as well

Also caution with the MG mount maybe you need to apply some filler where it mates with the cupola ring and put a dab of putty to represent the welding where its arms meet the cupola...

Love the sand skirts...do you weld the PE these days or use cyano?

Dottore

Thanks for the heads up on that!!!! I part missed it and part did not know how it was attached!
I used only Super Mario.......sorry ....Glue for the PE.

What a lovely job Noel, it is really looking great.

Noel and Matthew

This is interesting but how can a painted metal idler become bare metal on the surface that has contact with rubber? I guess that the only part that might become bare metal are the edges, the area that is flat touching rubber, I would guess that only slight scratches from abrasive sand revealing the undercoat OD then metal? But you never now with Shermans what might reveal so highlight this for me guys ...



Ivan

I think sometimes we are over enthusiastic on the polished metal effect of a tank's running gear, though have never seen a tank in action, the next closer to it locally are construction engines, so here is a small 'caterpillar' stationed for a Sunday after a week hard work in sand and concrete ... notice that tracks are all metal, contact is extreme metal to metal + a lot of abrasive material cement and sand ... The steps that reveals till metal is base coat. then undercoat, then metal, but look closer metal is not polished just dark coloured smooth metal ... nothing silvery, polished!

Some more interesting weathering effects ... and chipping galore!



The 'polished area'





Chipping, primer, rust and oil

Ivan I didnt say the idler should be polished steel, just interpreted what Noel tried to portray...I would keep idler basecoated.

Dottore

Heq now it depends, if Shermans were paited or base coated desert on the field [which i doubt] or factory finished but still I would guess that idler would be finished in sand all throughout.

I have seen Humvees being prepared for the Gulf and painted on deck on their way to the desert and I can assure you they do not mask anything, they overspray the tyres and canvas as well ... apart that no two matched, ranging from a pinkish hue to a yellowish and this was 1991 ...

I meant I would have left idler in desert colour...

Dottore

Mammam Mia how TECHNICAL this thread has become so I'll only watch from a safe distance and admire Noel's speed and ability

Ray

No Ray would be a pity we do not have your contribution, we are just discussing to be much near to realism ... I think it is our main aim in AFV modelling now, we get weathering as much realistic as possible!

Keep it up guys it's getting an interesting thread ... and surely the final build would be another masterpiece from Noel!

Ivan

Noel and Matthew

This is interesting but how can a painted metal idler become bare metal on the surface that has contact with rubber?

Quite right! I'll take note of this and amend accordingly!

Very interesting pics, Ivan..........and you seem to be right in your point of polished steel.

I'm hoping that I'll spray tomorrow morning......... my God let my children sleep an hour more

Regards
Noel

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I'm hoping that I'll spray tomorrow morning......... my God let my children sleep an hour more
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Regards
Noel

Great Noel ...just great I like the way you pronouce it ......Thanks God.....

This is what I did this morning:

Desert Pink


Pre-Shading



Highlights


Camo

Seems your children slept mate, thank God!

Looking pretty in pink

Keep it coming, refreshing to see a dressed up sherman!

Ivan

Wow Noel, what great camo. That is the modellers best friend, the childrens' sleeptime. It is only thanks to that we get some time to work.

bcauchi wrote:Wow Noel, what great camo. That is the modellers best friend, the childrens' sleeptime. It is only thanks to that we get some time to work.

that is untill they grow up. when they grow up like mine they take over your space and tools and you become a begger in your own home

The white boarder..........

Fantastic Noel just fantastic ...

Noel, you're fast man, really fast

But its good to see that you don't sacrifice quality for quantity

Impressive work to say the least

Now who said that Shermans come only in OD ??????

Keep them coming mate.........

Ray

Looking Good!

I love this idea that everyone is trying to be precise and reflect on the BW image by turning their project in greyscale, but beware not always might work fine, we are in the digital age, those veterans had just apretures and lenses to get the job done

Bring it over this Wednesday Noel, would love to see before you progress to the next step ...

Iv