alclad dont need polishing
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Lightning T-4
Alex Kontiveis- Silver
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- Post n°27
Re: Lightning T-4
I work with Alclad's exclusively.
I think its the ULTIMATE solution for great results. There many ways to achieve the desirable surface by using them in combination with the primer (Black Enamel Glossy).
I will wait for your final painting job.
PS..Alclad can be polished if you like so. Its recommended.
I think its the ULTIMATE solution for great results. There many ways to achieve the desirable surface by using them in combination with the primer (Black Enamel Glossy).
I will wait for your final painting job.
PS..Alclad can be polished if you like so. Its recommended.
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- Post n°28
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RAF wrote:For the bare metal areas I'm using testors metalizers range. Is alclad better?
Testors metallizers are good but as i found out, you cannot mask them without ruining the paintwork, so to do different panels is quite difficult. One thing alcad is certainly different than the metalizers is that you can safely mask (tamiya masking tape) and remove it without removing the paint. As i said I just used alcad on a quick trail and so far it was very promising and most likely going to switch to alcad for bare metal finishes.
AdriaN- Gold
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- Post n°29
Re: Lightning T-4
Downside: they are expensive (around 5euro)
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- Post n°30
Re: Lightning T-4
Minor update in a very slow build, but one headache or part of it finally over, cut the kit plastic part and mated the resin conversion front and not that a good fit since the resin fuselage parts have different consistency.
Ray- Best in Show
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- Post n°31
Re: Lightning T-4
Does not look bad at all JF
bcauchi- Best in Show
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- Post n°32
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Looks nice Joe but you might have some difficulty in getting a good finish when you try to blend the joint between the resin and the plastic, nothing major however.
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- Post n°33
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bcauchi wrote:Looks nice Joe but you might have some difficulty in getting a good finish when you try to blend the joint between the resin and the plastic, nothing major however.
Thanks. It will definitly be difficult but still can be done. It will have to be perfect since it will be a natural metal finish
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- Post n°34
Re: Lightning T-4
Spray the entire fuselage with the grey primer filler and sand it down to a very smooth finish. That can be done even over the joint and then apply the bare metal finish over the grey. that is what i would do anyway. You can get a single smooth finish all over with the primer.
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- Post n°35
Re: Lightning T-4
Nice surgical result on a very interesting project Joe.
Filling resin to plastic can be a pain - take care not to sand too much as resin may be softer than plastic and you could get an indent on the resin side. If you are still using milliput, you should have no sink problems when you apply the undercoat but keep this in mind. I have learnt from unhappy experiences.
Looking forward to seeing your version of Alclad - never used it myself as it doesn't exactly fall within my category but will try it out eventually.
Insomma, fantastic work as always Joe... and have not seen you since your TV appearance on Airborne - well done!!!
Filling resin to plastic can be a pain - take care not to sand too much as resin may be softer than plastic and you could get an indent on the resin side. If you are still using milliput, you should have no sink problems when you apply the undercoat but keep this in mind. I have learnt from unhappy experiences.
Looking forward to seeing your version of Alclad - never used it myself as it doesn't exactly fall within my category but will try it out eventually.
Insomma, fantastic work as always Joe... and have not seen you since your TV appearance on Airborne - well done!!!
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- Post n°36
Re: Lightning T-4
bcauchi wrote:Spray the entire fuselage with the grey primer filler and sand it down to a very smooth finish. That can be done even over the joint and then apply the bare metal finish over the grey. that is what i would do anyway. You can get a single smooth finish all over with the primer.
Since I will be using alcad I will need a smooth glossy surface and to avoid nasty surprises will spray the entire surface in acrylic gloss black after check for all imperfections and hoping I don't miss some!!
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- Post n°37
Re: Lightning T-4
Aldo wrote:Nice surgical result on a very interesting project Joe.
Filling resin to plastic can be a pain - take care not to sand too much as resin may be softer than plastic and you could get an indent on the resin side. If you are still using milliput, you should have no sink problems when you apply the undercoat but keep this in mind. I have learnt from unhappy experiences.
Looking forward to seeing your version of Alclad - never used it myself as it doesn't exactly fall within my category but will try it out eventually.
Insomma, fantastic work as always Joe... and have not seen you since your TV appearance on Airborne - well done!!!
Thanks Aldo. As it turns out the airfix plastic is a bit on the sot side and the resin not so soft. Anyway, first filling sanding was not so bad, still to do more filling but on the good track. Since I have had a bit of mishaps with milliput I will leave the metallic finish for last, so that I will not apply much widespread masking.
I have used Alcad sparingly, and all I can say for now that you can mask it safely and not removing it alongside the masking tape, but found that you still need to seal it for safety as it still can be marked and found that spraying it in layers it better. One important thing is that all surface has to be glossy and properly cured, otherwise area with are a bit matt - trouble caused it react with the alcad solvent and shrink/lift up. On the other hand, you just open the bottle and spray in a well ventilated area - important.
I am still hiding after my performance on airborne cause of all the paparazzi chasing me!!
AdriaN- Gold
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- Post n°38
Re: Lightning T-4
Poor you i was in your boots not long ago with the F84
Alclad isnt invincible. it marks very easily with handling & masking can damage it. EVEN with gloss coatings over it, it still gets damaged
Alclad isnt invincible. it marks very easily with handling & masking can damage it. EVEN with gloss coatings over it, it still gets damaged
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- Post n°39
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Just another small update, major assembly finished. The resin parts needed quite some filler to blend evreything in but nothing major. Panel lines need to be restored and on to first paint coat.
Ray- Best in Show
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- Post n°40
Re: Lightning T-4
I thought I was seeing double
I almost forgot they are two different projects
I almost forgot they are two different projects
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- Post n°41
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JOe, nice one too...
did'nt know lighting had side by side training version...
stevan
did'nt know lighting had side by side training version...
stevan
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- Post n°42
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Finally, starting appying the paint job. It will be a 56 Sqn RAF bird
AdriaN- Gold
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- Post n°43
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Is that pre shading showing through or did you post shade??
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- Post n°44
Re: Lightning T-4
It is preshading with very dark red(added black to it). It is less visible in realty but the camera flash emphasized it more.
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