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    Post  skyhigh Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:50 pm

    Brian in case I did not tell you ..the F's like the G2 and 4's does not had the underside ejection chutes..ok...

    I now that Revell give both panels , but you have to choose the closed one

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    Post  slingshot392 Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:09 am

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    bcauchi wrote:BUT NOW WE HAVE TO SEE YOU BUILD A 109!  YOU CANNOT KEEP RUNNING AWAY FROM IT FOR EVER.
    No truer words were ever spoken.  He's got at least 3 hasegawa F's in his stash so there's no excuse Twisted Evil 
    lol! lol!  I'm still searching for that last detail photo ...lol! lol!

    Wayne ..I have to confess,..Embarassed ... that for the moment ... pls don't shout at me ..Mad Rolling Eyes I have 3 E's - 3 F's -8 G's  and 2 K's....109's....Arrow 
    No B's, C's, or D's, what gives??? affraid lol! 
    lol! ..Not yet slingshot392..there is no such kits only conver..or resin, they have to wait... lol! 

    Most, if not all three of those variants are available in 1/33 paper models Very Happy 
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    Post  bcauchi Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:50 pm

    Work on the flaps including a dry fitting. i did not elaborate much on the hinges because they do not show except for the small part i made.
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    Post  bcauchi Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:52 pm

    PS removed the streak of superglue which showed up in the third pic.
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    Post  Ray Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:12 pm

    skyhigh wrote:
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    bcauchi wrote:BUT NOW WE HAVE TO SEE YOU BUILD A 109!  YOU CANNOT KEEP RUNNING AWAY FROM IT FOR EVER.
    No truer words were ever spoken.  He's got at least 3 hasegawa F's in his stash so there's no excuse Twisted Evil 
    lol! lol!  I'm still searching for that last detail photo ...lol! lol!

    Wayne ..I have to confess,..Embarassed ... that for the moment ... pls don't shout at me ..Mad Rolling Eyes I have 3 E's - 3 F's -8 G's  and 2 K's....109's....Arrow 
    Paroli, Paroli, Paroli lol! lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  skyhigh Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:03 pm

    Gi hu....Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil  ghed tara Wayne ..min ji hajackja.. it treads.....cheers
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    Post  Ray Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:38 am

    bcauchi wrote:PS removed the streak of superglue which showed up in the third pic.  
    You're doing a Sterling Job as usual Bri I love you

    Can't wait enough for the wrapping up & delivery cheers
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    Post  bcauchi Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:27 pm

    Thanks RAy, i am trying to get there if they stop finding things i have to restart and remake. Pass il-quddiem u tlieta lura!
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    Post  Ray Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:13 am

    bcauchi wrote:Thanks RAy, i am trying to get there if they stop finding things i have to restart and remake.  Pass il-quddiem u tlieta lura!
    Try & alter that a bit to TWO steps forward & ONE step backwards like in REAL life lol!

    You would still be advancing FORWARD Twisted Evil

    Whatever Brian, don't let anyone/anything dishearten you from the PASSION of Modelling cheers 
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    Post  bcauchi Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:35 pm

    Not disheated at all bit what started out as a nearly OOB build is going to take more time than i would like it to. But that is modeling i suppose!
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    Post  skyhigh Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:50 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Not disheated at all bit what started out as a nearly OOB build is going to take more time than i would like it to.  But that is modeling i suppose!

    How Brian .....How could you build such a beautiful aircraft model ..out of the box...Evil or Very Mad  Twisted Evil .....I nkow, that down deep inside, you'r are saying ..How can I....... Now this is modeling...cheers 
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    Post  bcauchi Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:30 pm

    marco do you like the flaps? do they pass your test? I started the wheel well detail. Will post some pics soon.
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    Post  Wayne Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:19 pm

    Flaps look great as far as I'm concerned, but I'll let the grand master of research pass judgement Very Happy 
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:34 am

    Wayne wrote:Flaps look great as far as I'm concerned, but I'll let the grand master of research pass judgement Very Happy   
    Lovely work mate.

    No way Wayne, Mad ...I'm no grand master and nothing else... we all learn here, from each other... I just love the plane ...I love you... and I'll do my very best... to see every modeler , do authentic replica models...even some AFv's modelers I try to do my best to help them ....that's it all ..

    And when it comes to 109 , I could not stand it ..with all this inf.. we have... Evil or Very Mad 

    In fact I was talking at the club , with some of you ..How ..how manufacturers do mistakes .. three trades came out with new 1/32 109's ,last one this year.. all of them with mistakes and the reveiw tell you don't worry some aftermarket will come out for correction .. I could not stand this....

    Love you all happy modeling..cheers 
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:51 am

    bcauchi wrote:marco do you like the flaps? do they pass your test? I started the wheel well detail. Will post some pics soon.


    Brian , I'll already told you ..like it or not it's your model after all..

    and I don't want to slow you or ...in your modeling time..

    But now that you asked .. they  look good , altough at the end of the upper  flaps looks a bit thick , or the photos are not so good...
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    Post  Noel Petroni Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:57 pm

    It's getting complicated!

    Marco is taking you to the drawing board every time....study 
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    Post  Ray Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:53 pm

    Marco I think you are going a bit overboard now IMHO Twisted Evil

    If I was Brian, I would definitely tell you what looks a BIT THICK & where to stick it  lol!

    Bear in mind that Brian's pic is showing that flap magnified by at least X20 affraid 

    Sorry for being me pale 

    Just my 2c worth & I'm sure Brian can see thru your over enthusiasm as I & we ALL do cheers 

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    Post  bcauchi Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:58 pm

    marco you are right, the upper part does look thick but it isn't. The upper sheet is the kit plastic part and it has been sanded down to knife edge thickness, it is tansparent and if i sand it down more it will just disintegrate. But in reality, it looks good. Give me a chance to paint it then we will see. The lower part is a photetched sheet so it does look thinner. But the edges are both the same thickness.
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:59 pm

    i told you Ray it would be simpler and quicker to build the real plane.
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    Post  Ray Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:06 pm

    bcauchi wrote:i told you Ray it would be simpler and quicker to build the real plane.
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:12 pm

    Ray it-tifel fitt imma jkollok tammetti li jhobbu l-109 daqs dawl ghajnejh mela nipprova nirranga dak li jghidli imma hemm limitu sa kemm tista tasal. Besides, as you pointed out, most of these pics are close ups and the object in view is much larger than it actually is. In reality it would look good but when you magnify it then every little inaccuracy is also magnified. That's why I marvel at Louis' work, his stuff is bloody small but when he takes pics it still looks good. Imma ghalhekk certi nies huma l-Allat tal-mudelli u ohrajn le!
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    Post  Ray Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:37 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Ray it-tifel fitt imma jkollok tammetti li jhobbu l-109 daqs dawl ghajnejh mela nipprova nirranga dak li jghidli imma hemm limitu sa kemm tista tasal.  Besides, as you pointed out, most of these pics are close ups and the object in view is much larger than it actually is. In reality it would look good but when you magnify it then every little inaccuracy is also magnified.  That's why I marvel at Louis' work, his stuff is bloody small but when he takes pics it still looks good. Imma ghalhekk certi nies huma l-Allat tal-mudelli u ohrajn le!

    Bri, now that you pointed it out I have to shout IT OUT, that WHOEVER DOUBTS YOUR MODELLING PROWESS MUST BE HALLUCINATING, enlarged pics or not I WOULD NEVER DOUBT THAT YOU, BRIAN CAUCHI OF SSM WOULD COMMIT SUCH A BASIC CONSTRUCTION ERROR AS IF YOU NEVER CONSTRUCTED/SANDED DOWN A BLOODY TRAILING EDGE BEFORE???????!!!!!!!

    As I told you, we ALL forgive him as he is Marco Borg of SSM & his over zealousness over anything that has wings & the 109 especially is UNDERSTOOD & MUST BE DIGESTED & ABSORBED BY ALL cheers

    Re your pics, they are spot on & don't compare your work with no one with all due respect as you rub shoulders with the Greats of Modelling INTERNATIONALLY not only locally!!!

    Now get back to work as the Master is looking for the most severe punishment to inflict upon you Wing Nuts Sad SadSadSadSadSadSad
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:53 pm

    So sorry , I left the corner word out ...stupid me...

    Brian I was refering for the corner upper part of the flap the right one...Exclamation 

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    Post  Ray Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:16 pm

    bcauchi wrote:marco you are right, the upper part does look thick but it isn't. The upper sheet is the kit plastic part and it has been sanded down to knife edge thickness, it is tansparent and if i sand it down more it will just disintegrate.  But in reality, it looks good. Give me a chance to paint it then we will see. The lower part is a photetched sheet so it does look thinner.  But the edges are both the same thickness.
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:32 pm

    Marco you are right, there was some extra superglue which made that corner look thick, i removed it but you have to be careful it is holding the aluminium sides to the plastic and the brass so if i remove too much, the whole thing will dismantle. i had to have a compromise here but i thinned down the aluminium sides so it all looks neater now.

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