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    Post  Paul Salomone on Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:17 am

    Good morning to all,

    Photos of the progress carried out during the weekend.

    Top view of the armoured measuring room.
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    Another view of the same measuring room.
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    Front al view of the armoured bridge - construction in progress.
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    The inside view of the armoured bridge.
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    The top of the bridge temporarily placed for fitting.
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    Both structures seated in place to check fitting.
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    The measuring room and the armoured bridge sitedin place.
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    Another view of the assembly.
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    Another view.
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    Internal detail of the armoured bridge, showing the thickness of the armoured walls. I intend to detail the internal of the bridge, and assemble the side doors in open position, so that one will be able to see the interior.
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    Another elevation.
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    3-D Layout of the super structure beneth the ship's funnels forming part of the midship.
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    Another 3-D view.
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    Another 3-D view.
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    Ploting out the deck of the supersturcture, beneth the funnel.
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    An isometric view of the deck. Note the complicated lines of the deck. also note that the circular lines are not even, as it is a combination of tangents and circular lines with different diameters. I had to put my draughtsman skills into this to be able to produce the whole plot.
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    Longitudinal view of the deck.
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    A second layer is applied on which is to be the bottom side of the deck. this layer is the guide of the superstucture walls.
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    A close view of the second layer.
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    Longitudinal view of the whole deck.
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    The same dack, with the second guide layer fixed in place.
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    Finally, putting the walls in place.
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    Another view of the process.
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    By the end of this week, I will have the walls ready. and will be able to start on the other structures, like the aft deck or the main aircraft hanger. Will see. sunny

    Meanwhile, I will try to upload more pictures next Thursday, showing the progress to date. Basketball


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    Post  Cyril. on Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:42 pm

    Xtigri Pawl, Surprised

    You are certainly making up for time since you first started.

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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:25 am

    Amazing work Paul..... Cyril he's not running but he's at full knots... thats the spirit ..SSM give you the full boost....cheers bounce
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:40 am

    Good morning my friends,

    Thanks for your encouraging comments. Wish that I counld do more, but the day has only 24hours. I carry out an hour in the morning Shocked and another hour or two in the evenings Sleep plus the weekend; with my wife grumbling as I spend all the time in the basement; working on the model. affraid But between planning, cutting and assembling the pieces, time flys. lol! lol!

    Thursday I will be able to post some more photos of the progress to date. Very Happy

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    Post  Paul Salomone on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:57 am

    Good morning all, Very Happy

    Photos of the progress made during these gracefull three days of the long weekend. Surprised

    Come on boys - all hands on deck and view the pictures. affraid

    Work on the stiffeners and supports, to have the walls steady.
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    Another view of how the stiffeners should be laidout.
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    The stiffeners building up quite well.
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    Close up showing the number of layers making up the stiffeners. This is done to eliminate any warping and sagging of the structure when ready.
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    Still a long way to go.
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    The afterside of the structure in progress.
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    Another view of the progress so far.
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    Note the layout of the stiffeners, laid out to help support all the contours of the structure.
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    The lower structure in place.
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    Another view of the sturcture.
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    Another view.
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    All the blanks filled in - the walls are put in place.
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    Another view of the lower stucture.
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    Finally a view showing how it really looks.
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    Close up view of the lower superstructure, revealing the numerous windows.
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    The super structure in place.
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    A view showing the extent of the superstructure.
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    Top view of the whole thing.
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    The only things left to do are the main hanger and the afterstructure. Will try to have these ready for the exhibition. Then my friends, the real hard work will start - the finishing and the detailing. Basketball bounce

    This week, I will try to finish off the basic structure for the aft structure. Finally things are fitting in place and progress is showing. cheers cheers

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    Post  David on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:53 pm

    I admire your consistency and perseverance.

    Also your posting just in time before the 0800 hrs BBC World News Very Happy
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    Post  Guest on Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:56 pm

    Amazing work Paul, keep posting updates!!
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    Post  Ray on Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:44 pm

    Amazing as always Paul Twisted Evil
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    Post  skyhigh on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:54 pm

    Amazing Paul with all this work you are going to finish it before... cheers
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:49 am

    Good morning Brothers, sunny

    I am trying to do my best, but still a long way ahead. At the moment I am working on the aft structure, which should be ready by the weekend; and next week I plan to be working on the last piece, the seaplane hanger. bounce

    So by the start of the exhibition, all the basic mainstructures forming part of the ship will be ready. but then the real work will commence - that is the finishing and the detailing; and my brotheres, that is a real headache.

    I woke up at 4.00am this morning, still asleep, Sleep , and don't know how, found my way to the basement, boiled up a cup of good old Bovril soup; and started off. lol!

    I am planning to do a good two days of modelling during the exhibition as well. bounce every thing helps.

    Will be posting more pictures next friday, so hang on. cheers


    Below are a couple of 3-D pictures of the aft structure and the seaplane hanger with the aircraft catapult.

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    Post  iCocker on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:11 am

    Paul

    Have you considered doing some 3D printing for the delicate detail, MCAST have a very good printer though a bit expensive the service, but if you prepare a good schematic ACAD or 3D Max drawing it comes perfect ... I think this new technology we should start using ... saves some time to be dedicated on other detailing and painting.

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    Post  Paul Salomone on Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:39 am

    Good morning Ivan,

    I can produce a detailed drawing of the ship and all the details in ACAD, it's no problem at all, except for the time intent. Apart from that, for informations sake, the AJ-Press books have published a good set of books with 3-D details, which are of great help.

    as for the equipment at Mcast, is it a 3D creation and printing or 3D moulding. I know that nowadays, fortifications models are being created by 3D moulding machines, but don't exactly know who is in possession of this grand equipment.

    If only for the secondary and anti aircraft guns, I would do all the autocad drawings required for the job.

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    Post  bcauchi on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:11 am

    I need to see your latest work at home. I only get red crosses at the office. Will comment later on but i am looking forward to the anticipation, your work on this fantastic venture is second to none.
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    Post  Ray on Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:55 am

    Paul, you have SSM Blood in your veins I love you
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    Post  iCocker on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:03 pm

    Paul Salomone wrote:Good morning Ivan,

    I can produce a detailed drawing of the ship and all the details in ACAD, it's no problem at all, except for the time intent. Apart from that, for informations sake, the AJ-Press books have published a good set of books with 3-D details, which are of great help.

    as for the equipment at Mcast, is it a 3D creation and printing or 3D moulding. I know that nowadays, fortifications models are being created by 3D moulding machines, but don't exactly know who is in possession of this grand equipment.

    If only for the secondary and anti aircraft guns, I would do all the autocad drawings required for the job.

    lol! lol!

    The Targa Gap MCAST [where they study 3D design] have a 3D printer. It works in powder and then set with resin. Needs some smoothing then but really captures the detail well. My nephew is a student there and has been using [and draining his pocket money] well. As I told you it is a bit expensive ... but then considering the hours if scratchbuilt I guess it is worth the trouble ... especially for AA, cranes, radars etc ...


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    Post  skyhigh on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:16 pm

    iCocker wrote:
    Paul Salomone wrote:Good morning Ivan,

    I can produce a detailed drawing of the ship and all the details in ACAD, it's no problem at all, except for the time intent. Apart from that, for informations sake, the AJ-Press books have published a good set of books with 3-D details, which are of great help.

    as for the equipment at Mcast, is it a 3D creation and printing or 3D moulding. I know that nowadays, fortifications models are being created by 3D moulding machines, but don't exactly know who is in possession of this grand equipment.

    If only for the secondary and anti aircraft guns, I would do all the autocad drawings required for the job.

    lol! lol!

    The Targa Gap MCAST [were they study 3D design] have a 3D printer. It works in powder and then set with resin. Needs some smoothing then but really captures the detail well. My nephew is a student there and has been using [and draining his pocket money] well. As I told you it is a bit expensive ... but then considering the hours if scratchbuilt I guess it is worth the trouble ... especially for AA, cranes, radars etc ...



    Ivan yes at Targa Gap MCAST have one , because my son, last year they had a sponsor project , but as you sad it's very expensive ... but the matter is that the finished product is very fragile ......
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    Prosit Paul...coming on nicely....your persevearance is amazing....man and I thought I was a modelling iffissat devoting so much of my time in my workshop...you surpass me by far habib
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    Post  Proximo41 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:08 pm

    if Hitler knew about you he would have had a much larger navy!!! lol! Proset Pawl!!
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:40 am

    Thanks guys,

    I am doing the best I can to have the basic structure ready for the exhibition. This way, the visitors can appreciate more, the outlines of the ship. Rolling Eyes

    I must ask Marco to start some research on the Junkers 87 and the Me109T, intended to be used on the German Aircraft Carrier "Graf Zeppelin", as I think that this will be my next project. In 1:72 scale, it will measure some 14 feet. Cool

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    Post  skyhigh on Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:04 pm

    Paul Salomone wrote:Thanks guys,

    I am doing the best I can to have the basic structure ready for the exhibition. This way, the visitors can appreciate more, the outlines of the ship. Rolling Eyes

    I must ask Marco to start some research on the Junkers 87 and the Me109T, intended to be used on the German Aircraft Carrier "Graf Zeppelin", as I think that this will be my next project. In 1:72 scale, it will measure some 14 feet. Cool



    Wow you have gut's........ Cool
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:03 pm

    Good morning Marco, Cool

    Once you have the informtion you need, it's only a matter of putting words to facts. Rolling Eyes Of course, time is the enemy. Twisted Evil But I can say that I have all the information I need to build the ship. study The only week point is the intended ship's air arm squadron and the actual plans of the two steam operated catapults, intented to be used in order to catapult the aircraft. Question

    In my opinion having an 11foot and a 14foot vessel would be the utmost. cheers

    Tomorrow i will post more pictures of the progress - not much but at least, I have finished what was planned for during the week days. Basketball Basketball


    Ejja Marco, let's get the 109's ready for action. bounce
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    Post  in nannu pec on Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:53 pm

    Paul Salomone wrote:Thanks guys,

    I am doing the best I can to have the basic structure ready for the exhibition. This way, the visitors can appreciate more, the outlines of the ship. Rolling Eyes

    I must ask Marco to start some research on the Junkers 87 and the Me109T, intended to be used on the German Aircraft Carrier "Graf Zeppelin", as I think that this will be my next project. In 1:72 scale, it will measure some 14 feet. Cool

    that will be something....a flat top in that scale ! affraid affraid
    My God looking forward to that....Flat tops are my favourite ship models...just got the Academy Warspite....beautiful lady and can't wait to start her Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:15 pm

    Aw Nannu Pec, I love you

    I know you like aircraft carriers, and one of the reasons that I shall be doing the Graf Zeppelin, is that apart from the fact that it's German, no maker has ever issued a model kit in 1:350 scale. So the Graf Zeppelin in 1:72 scale would be a well chosen, next in line project.

    See you next Wednesday Nannu.

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    Post  bcauchi on Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:44 pm

    Finally found time to check out your work, this is totally amazing and the progress you made is truly impressive. Brilliant work!!
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    Post  Paul Salomone on Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:36 am

    Good morning Brothers, sunny

    Some pics of the aft superstructure. cheers

    The aft superstructure was in fact the armoured measuring room for the secondary armament, and was thus also the base of the radar room which sat on top of the aft structure. both structures were designed to be heavily armoured, as such no windows or portholes were catered for, except for an access door on either side.

    The base layout of the aft structure.
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    The base with liners to aid the lining of the outer walls.
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    The outer walls in place. Note the stiffeners on the inside, which will also help to support the top cover.
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    Another view of the assembly.
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    Assembly ready, with the top platform also in place. Upside down of course for photgrafic purposes.
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    The aft superstructure.
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    The aft supersturcture sited in place.
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    Close up view of the side elevation.
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    Top view from the rear of the ship.
    1:72 Scale German WW2 Heavy Battle Cruiser K.M.S. Scharnhorst 1943 - Page 6 Dsc02769


    This weekend I shall be working on the final piece of the puzzle - the aircraft hanger. Rolling Eyes

    Next Monday I will defenitly post more pictures, and hopefully of all the hanger. This depends on the shop steward (my wife). queen

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