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    Post  bcauchi Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:36 pm

    Got sick of the O2 so i did some construction work on the new engine which will be on the base near the Dragon model since this plane was due for an engine change. This is the other engine from the kit. In fact, the left engine nacelle on the model is empty. I just put in pieces where it shows but it was a pity not to use such a nice engine.

    The engine here is depicted in preparation for hoisting into place. The exhaust ports are covered to prevent ingress of material, there are minimum of wires and pipes since the ones from the other engine would be used.

    There is also a makeshift lifting system which I found and copied from page 151 of 'Luftwaffe Fighter Bombers and Destroyers 1941-1945' As you can see they fitted temporary legs which I made from aluminium to keep the engine bottom off the ground and prevent damage to the piping. There are also c Channel sections (also scratchbuilt complete with lifting hooks) bolted in place instead of the engine bearers. These had hooks from which the engine would be raised in place. The channels are welded onto plates which fitted exactly in place of the engine mounts. Back to the 02 now.


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    Post  skyhigh Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:50 pm

    Brillant work Brian as always.... cheers
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    Post  Ray Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:36 pm

    So still acting sanely crazy as I can see Twisted Evil

    Great work Bri Cool
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    Post  bcauchi Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:30 pm

    I have finally prepared the Dragon 110E for spraying. This will be a totally black machine. Here are some pics of the airframe before masking.
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    The front part of the canopy has been fitted in place and will be amasked since it has to be fairedin with the rest of the fuselage. The framework has been sprayed internally.

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    Here are some of the painted parts. The weathering was done using oils, pastels and pigments. I hope i did not go overboard here. The chipping was made using two shades in oils, the rest in pastels and pigments. Now i need some help from you tank guys to tell me how to weather the black on this plane. I want it too look really good with rain streaking etc. I am dying to use some of your techniques. By the way, the entire airframe has been given a coat of aluminium using rub n buff so that i can chip it later on.

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    Post  Wayne Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:35 pm

    Great work Brian, that stuff looks real.. lovely weathering!


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    Post  bcauchi Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:06 pm

    Thanks Wayne,glad you like it.
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    Post  skyhigh Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:58 pm

    Brian it looks good as a war weary , but i leave the jugeing for the weathering buffs , I'm not in that field.......... cheers
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    Post  ascomt Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:17 pm

    Wow Brian.....great weathering...great job

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    Post  bcauchi Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:40 pm

    Marco, it is not portraying a war weary machine, these are the wheel bays we are talking about. They do get chipped and very dirty from the stones and debris thrown when the wheels are spinning on takeoff and landing from a grass field especially if it rains. The photo of this machine shows in on a rain-soaked airfield so that is the dirt i am talking about. I just put in chipping, dust and of course some mud. Just as you find in your car under the mudguards after all. Try keeping that area clean!!
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    Post  iCocker Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:49 pm

    Great idea to add chipping Brian, it is also an ideal canvas to do the hairspray technique or salt in such areas if anyone is not keen using the paintbrush. May I just suggest to add some little spots of highlights in the demarkation area this will enhance the illusion of chipping, just take note that all highlights need to be in the same angle of the overhead light. I like the oil stains ...

    At Euro we have seen a wonderful dio representing boys playing in an aircraft junkyard, will sure makes some aircraft nuts drulling ...

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    Post  Dottore Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:40 am

    Love realistic weathered finishes as opposed to brand new planes....

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    Post  Wayne Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:18 am

    I totally agree Dott. It also would be great for us newbies if we could have some 'hands on labs' at the club on the various techniques, where one could bring his own model and try stuff out under guidance.

    I believe Ivan did some sessions along these lines a few months back, unfortunately I could only attend one of them!

    Just a side note... not meant to hijack Briasn's post.

    P.S. Brian, I simply love how these are turning out!


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    Post  iCocker Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:24 am

    Wayne wrote:I totally agree Dott. It also would be great for us newbies if we could have some 'hands on labs' at the club on the various techniques, where one could bring his own model and try stuff out under guidance.

    I believe Ivan did some sessions along these lines a few months back, unfortunately I could only attend one of them!

    Just a side note... not meant to hijack Briasn's post.

    P.S. Brian, I simply love how these are turning out!

    I agree that seeing someone doing the job helps but there is nothing better then experimenting. Small sessions in club are good as introduction but not the ideal to see the proper process. Weathering is not rocket science but logic. Lucky we can say that the market is flooded with cosmetic products, DVDs and sbs articles that surely will make you going, to name a few try to go into blogs of Mig Jimenez and Adam Wilder. One tip I can give is do not restrict yourself reading and browsing aircraft articles as you find any answers, browse train, car and AFV modelling scene and the rest grab the process and just experiment ... finally it is just fun! Just look at Brian's results ...
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    Post  bcauchi Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:26 pm

    Just a few comments. First up I did put in highlights to the chipping, in fact I used two colours, first i started putting in all the chipping using the light shade and then i put in the darker one but i did not use a colour with enough contrast for the light shade. When it dried, it came very similar to the background colour. My mistake, i did not make an allowance for the fact that oils darken when they dry. I will change that next time round.

    As for technique, i don;t believe that you can isolate modeling the way some guys do, aircrat, AFV's, CArs, figures etc. There are techniques which you can use whatever type of modeling you do. I try to study what you other guys do through your models and through your explanation of how you do your techniques and then apply them to my models where they make sense.

    More than copy and follow instructions, Wayne, you need to experiment, get a scrap piece and spray it any colour then try using different media and techniques to practice whatever you want to achieve. Just go for it and stop only when you are satisfied.

    Please feel free to pass any comments you see fit. I don;t mind digressing from my model just to ask or learn something else. That's what the forum is for. We are modellers and here to help each other so there is no such thing as hijacking.

    Ivan, i still need you to explain how to do the rain streaks on dust, i intend putting some in on the all black airframe. I want to make sure that this will not be a boring, one colour model. It has to come to life.
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    Post  iCocker Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:18 pm

    That is the philosophy my friend ... everything is in the same 'mix', there are no parameters!

    As for rain mark, I have used the streaking effect with oil paints, also mixing buff + water with Tamiya paints and now I prefer the use the enemel products by AK. I prefer the later as I get different shades and as it is enemel based [and if mixed properly] you get an immediately matt finish and not have to use varnishes which tend to distroy the subtle gradation effects.

    Sorry to step a little from the tread but here what we admired during Euro, sadly just a Silver [it was massive and 1/32] ... we called it The ideal Way to show Aircraft lol!

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    Post  bcauchi Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:47 am

    Thanks Ivan i will try it out. There was a really good description on the MIG book which the Dottore had and which i had seen a couple of years ago but i don;t remeber the process.
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    Post  iCocker Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:44 am

    bcauchi wrote:Thanks Ivan i will try it out. There was a really good description on the MIG book which the Dottore had and which i had seen a couple of years ago but i don;t remeber the process.

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    Post  bcauchi Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:19 pm

    Love that diorama. Must have been monstrous in 32nd scale. What a neat idea although the planes would not be stacked on top of each other like that. Even if you see graveyard pics after the war maybe that's why the silver. It is a bit overdone. Also, the stuka is out of place with the FW's and Me109s.

    Well, whilst I'm at it here is another update. This time I am preparing the Revell heavily modified 110 for painting. Here is some work I've done and redone. First up, the aerial masts on the nose have been refined because they were not accurate enough and I found a really good close up pic. Could not live with the ones I had. So those had to be redone.
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    Next is the work done on the canopy. This is made up of no less than 8 parts, the front part is the kit part with some mods. Just the brackets holding the armoured glass to the rest of the canopy are added on. the other two flaps are from the dragon kit, extras.
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    The next part the largest is also the kit part. All the kit parts have been sanded down to remove the excessively overdone framing and reduce it to an acceptable level. These were polished using polishing sticks, the good old autosol and finally a dip in future which works wonders for clear plastic. The part adjacent to this to the rear is also from the kit but heavily modified with added framing and cut up to portray it in the open position.
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    The rearmost part was hot formed over the modified kit part. I am now completing this canopy by modifying the kit final part which is drying up from a dip in future. I will put up photos later on.





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    Post  bcauchi Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:20 pm

    Love that diorama. Must have been monstrous in 32nd scale. What a neat idea although the planes would not be stacked on top of each other like that. Even if you see graveyard pics after the war maybe that's why the silver. It is a bit overdone. Also, the stuka is out of place with the FW's and Me109s.

    Well, whilst I'm at it here is another update. This time I am preparing the Revell heavily modified 110 for painting. Here is some work I've done and redone. First up, the aerial masts on the nose have been refined because they were not accurate enough and I found a really good close up pic. Could not live with the ones I had. So those had to be redone.
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    Next is the work done on the canopy. This is made up of no less than 8 parts, the front part is the kit part with some mods. Just the brackets holding the armoured glass to the rest of the canopy are added on. the other two flaps are from the dragon kit, extras.
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    The next part the largest is also the kit part. All the kit parts have been sanded down to remove the excessively overdone framing and reduce it to an acceptable level. These were polished using polishing sticks, the good old autosol and finally a dip in future which works wonders for clear plastic. The part adjacent to this to the rear is also from the kit but heavily modified with added framing and cut up to portray it in the open position.
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    The rearmost part was hot formed over the modified kit part. I am now completing this canopy by modifying the kit final part which is drying up from a dip in future. I will put up photos later on.





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    Post  bcauchi Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:22 pm

    Sorry for the double posting but something went wrong.
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    Post  Ray Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:16 pm

    bcauchi wrote:Sorry for the double posting but something went wrong.

    I know what happened you cheater Twisted Evil trying to catch up with me lol!

    Sublime work Bri & again & again I applaud you for always trying to crash thru the barrier of "limits" as to what can be done to a model.....Bravissimu cheers
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    Post  skyhigh Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:08 pm

    You have guts to replace those aerials again , nice work as always Brian...

    May I reminde you I now that you some how noticed, but still I want to bring the attention . that there were some canopy frames from the inside only , so check clearly the photos.

    And some how the kit frames they look a bit heavy ....

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    Post  skyhigh Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:15 pm

    This is the G type...


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    Post  skyhigh Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:21 pm

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    Love that diorama. Must have been monstrous in 32nd scale. What a neat idea although the planes would not be stacked on top of each other like that. Even if you see graveyard pics after the war maybe that's why the silver. It is a bit overdone. Also, the stuka is out of place with the FW's and Me109s.





    Now Brian , this diorama can be real because some were I have photos like it, and the Stuka it's not not out of place.......
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